Colorado’s Democratic-controlled House on Sunday passed a bill that would ban the sale and transfer of semiautomatic firearms, a major step for the legislation after roughly the same bill was swiftly killed by Democrats last year.

The bill, which passed on a 35-27 vote, is now on its way to the Democratic-led state Senate. If it passes there, it could bring Colorado in line with 10 other states — including California, New York and Illinois — that have prohibitions on semiautomatic guns.

But even in a state plagued by some of the nation’s worst mass shootings, such legislation faces headwinds.

Colorado’s political history is purple, shifting blue only recently. The bill’s chances of success in the state Senate are lower than they were in the House, where Democrats have a 46-19 majority and a bigger far-left flank. Gov. Jared Polis, also a Democrat, has indicated his wariness over such a ban.

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    Do you think the cops are gonna disarm neonazis? Or will they just use gun bans as an excuse to murder more black people?

    You think black people with firearms are less likely to be shot by police?

    The goal isn’t to beat the cops. It’s to defend against neonazis.

    How’s that going? Because from the outside, it looks like this.

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      Do you not think cops are more likely to kill black people if there’s a gun ban regardless whether they are armed?

      Yes, I’m well aware of how it looks. They are trying to use public massacres to ignite a civil war. Of course it’s horrible.

      And yet we do almost nothing to prosecute their talking heads who incite those same shootings and the billionaires who fund their rallies. Because hate speech is still somehow free speech. We need to clean up the loopholes in the first amendment before addressing the second.

      Trump is campaigning to become the next fuhrer, not president, yet you dingalings are bound and determined to make sure that we’re disarmed in advance. How stupid is that?

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        Do you not think cops are more likely to kill black people if there’s a gun ban regardless whether they are armed?

        That’s some wicked grammar there, but… no? Why would the cops kill less black people if specific firearms are banned?

        They are trying to use school shootings to ignite a civil war.

        What?

        Also, I feel Americans need to see this, and maybe consider that all these children dying isn’t necessary for their hobby or ‘self defense’ claims:

        USA has eight times the rate (as in percentage, not total_ of firearms deaths as Canada, which has more strict firearms rules. Canada has one-hundred times the rate of firearms deaths of the UK, which has more strict firearms rules.

        That means the USA has 800 times the rare of firearms deaths as the UK. So when this mysterious ‘civil war’ happens, how many children will have died so that you can have that semi-auto AR-15 to fight off the drones of the American military, or the armoured vehicles of your cops?

        Instead of pretending One Man With A Gun is going to do something, maybe try voting locally. Maybe try de-arming your cops?

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          Yes. Cops have always used gun bans as an excuse to kill more black people, regardless whether or not they are armed.

          Yes. They are trying to use school shootings to ignite a civil war. It’s in their manifestos they leave behind. They say so on their forums. The same talking heads who formented the insurrection are same ones who encourage incels to commit public massacres, then deny all culpability immediately after. They even claim the shootings never happened.

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            Yes. They are trying to use school shootings to ignite a civil war. It’s in their manifestos they leave behind. They say so on their forums. The same talking heads who formented the insurrection are same ones who encourage incels to commit public massacres, then deny all culpability immediately after. They even claim the shootings never happened.

            You think this is a push, from the NRA amongst others, to get people to… ban specific firearms? How exactly does banning semi-auto firearms prevent your Totally-Going-To-Work-Later uprising?

            [Because congratulations, your efforts to keep your firearms only cost the lives of 4,357 children (ages 1-19 years old) in the U.S. in 2020.

            By comparison, motor-vehicle deaths accounted for 4,112 deaths in that age range.](https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/03/29/guns-leading-deaths-children-us/)

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              When did I ever say that this is a push from the NRA to get the USA to ban specific firearms?

              I said that public massacres are being used by neo-Nazis to attempt to ignite a civil war, where they hope to rule over the ashes. I definitely did not suggest that gun bans would prevent these kinds of uprisings. Quite the opposite.

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              It’s not just firearms here, although firearms do admittedly give some fucked up people a voice.

              It’s the cultural tendency to fuck people up that is the larger issue.

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        Where did I say that?

        And none of these We Need Our Guns For Defense! comments are address that the main cause of death of your children is firearms. How many children have to die to prevent this theoretical tyrannical takeover? Where were all you guys with your guns when a coup was attempted?

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              Dude, if you’re going to try and put words in my mouth, give it half a thought first. That’s twice you’ve demonstrated poor reading comprehension.

              Armed citizens are the last necessary defense of the nation. We still had a semi-functioning government, and we had to give it the chance to prove itself still viable. Had it failed, things would have gone very differently.

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                    You need some more understanding of other countries, both how other first world countries operate, and how fascist countries do. Lets take the country with the second most guns per capita, Yemen. The birthplace of the Houthis, who engaged in armed insurrection of the government, and became fascist oppressors. That’s generally how fascist countries are born, from armed uprisings. It doesnt generally go well for the country, grabbing power with guns tends to mean holding onto that power with guns.

                    first world countries like in Europe tend to have fewer guns, and more representative governments. Rather than threats of violence, they use threats of labor.