The company’s team clarified that their terms prohibit third-party apps from disabling ads, as it denies creators their due reward for viewership. Although the announcement did not specify any app by name, it’s plausible to presume that third-party YouTube apps such as NewPipe, YouTube ReVanced, Piped, and others might be implicated.
Is “creators” Youtube’s version of “think on the children”?
Yes it is
Get off of Chrome
Get off of YouTube
Get off of gmail
Get off of Google
Theres a whole big internet out there. You don’t have to limit yourself to one single company.
Sort of true, except YouTube. I watch almost exclusively YouTube few hours every day. If it opens by mistake in a browser, it is totally unwatchable with ads inserted even in short videos. I hope reVanced will manage to avoid detection somehow, otherwise it is quite hopeless. Yes, I can pay for premium, but the app will be full of stupid crap and no gesture controls.
There is also newpipe
Does it show my subscriptions, etc?
No, it does not access your account at all and stores subscribed channels locally within the app. But there might be a way to transfer your subscriptions over if you can find a way to export them from your youtube account.
You can def export your subs. I did it when I set up freetube originally. So it should just be a question of if the other program will import them.
Getting off youtube is pretty difficult with no true alternative.
You forgot to add get off Android, which would also mean just going Apple. There is no good alternative there either.
I’m excited about Linux phones like the Pinephone, but they’re really not ready for anything more than Linux enthusiasts to flex. I was hoping to switch, but I need a new phone now, so I’ll probably get a Pixel and put GrapheneOS on it. At least that way I control what data Google gets access to.
No, GrapheneOS is a great Android OS tbh
I use GOS but… Google phone…
I honestly don’t have a problem buying stuff from Google, provided they don’t get to hoover up my data. And I can buy that Google Phone from eBay or something instead.
My main issue is not that the phones are Google but that they are flagships only. Completely unaffordable new, cost like a normal phone when used thus overpriced for their condition, and the only ones that cost somewhat like a normal phone new are the ones on which Graphene is EOL. I guess EOL Graphene is still better than a stock OS with updates, but a full phone price for something out of support is still massive overpaying.
Theres always Apple
Thanks, I like having control over my own device. And having both kidneys.
We have to make the alternatives. As Lemmy is an alternative to reddit, PeerTube could be an alternative to YouTube.
I guess an AOSP-based rom, if one exists for your phone?
YouTube is not a mandatory necessity. We live in a world of infinite sources of recreation. Get off YouTube has absolutely no requirement for an alternative to exist. Like alcohol, music, books, or whatever, you can only just not do it.
Youtube is a fantastic learning tool for diy, how to vids, reviews, education, etc. The lost goes on, and yea it has crap too, but there’s so much use for it in every day life also. Brushing it off would be literally like saying “dlstay away from books, there’s so many other things you could be looking at”.
It’s more like saying, “stay away from that particular publisher, because it’s abusive to the authors and steals from the readers”.
I do agree that I could look to so many thongs.
YouTube is the internet for me. Of my internet usage over 95% is watching YouTube
Same; ever since I left reddit I just can’t find any other platform besides YT that satisfies my need to be addicted to a website.
Problem is, there’s shitton of content that needs to be archived and moved from YouTube, if YouTube stops to exist then all tutorials and teaching videos and all previously produced content will be gone, people want this content, so only true solution is somehow archive all YouTube videos and move them from YouTube, until it’s done, YouTube will have monopoly, and it’s bad situation we’ve found ourselves in
If it’s educational, it could go to Wikicommons.
Off Google - super easy Off Gmail - you’ll still be fighting to get into someone inbox but there are many options still Off Chrome - getting harder and harder, the only option is Firefox Off YouTube - sorry, nowhere to go
But Youtube already take more than half of what creator should earn.
I googled. Isn’t it 45% Youtube and 55% vid producer?
If they don’t get demonitized or falsely copyright claimed.
Do you know how much it costs to build and host a video platform?
NewPipe works by fetching the required data from the official API (e.g. PeerTube) of the service you’re using. If the official API is restricted (e.g. YouTube) for our purposes, or is proprietary, the app parses the website or uses an internal API instead. This means that you don’t need an account on any service to use NewPipe.
So NewPipe doesn’t use yt API and it never accepted its terms, so NewPipe is safe (from my understanding)
What about ReVanced? Should be safe, since it’s just a modded version of the official YT app, right?
Unfortunately that’s more likely a strike against them than in their favor
Yep in a technical sense they are except they could get sued to hell idk how anonymous the newpipe devs kepp them selves but if they are not I’d say they don’t stand a chance to win a lawsuit against google .
they still havent cracked down on firefox + ublock
But they tried so hard…
And got so far, but in the end it doesn’t really matter
One thing, I don’t know why
I bought a PS5 with no games to buy
Silence!
Don’t tell the holy secret to the world!
They probably will eventually, but it’s just not priority. Most people interact with YouTube via Chrome (or one of the 400,000 rebranded Chromimum browsers) or the YouTube app, both of which Google can more tightly control. Firefox, with it’s smaller market share, just isn’t worth chasing… yet.
Still dont know what the big deal is, libretube and freetube still work fine. Same with firefox and uBlock.
I use Revanced. Out of curiosity, I tried going to youtube.com on Firefox + Ublock origin on my Samsung a70. Full screen, “double tap to forward 10 seconds”, “double tap to back 10 seconds” and captions work.
They’re not doing a very good job
And I’m here for it. uBlock Origin, NewPipe, and Grayjay all work fine. If those stop working, I’ll also stop using YouTube.
YouTube already denies many creators of their due rewards from viewership over trivial things like saying the word “hell” in a video. it’s obviously something more considering it’s Google we’re talking about.
“Finally”?
I knew it was only a matter of time before alternative YouTube clients started getting banned. You can’t “stick it to Google” while still relying on their servers to host the videos. We need to support Lemmy-like services that are distributed and host their own content and communities for video.
That’s peertube, right? A slight problem is that a lot of the popular content is only on YouTube for the money. Better patronage or sponsoring systems would help with that. For ones not in it for the money, knowing there’s a solid service with community would probably suffice.
There is more cntent than you hake time to watch. Look to peertube and suyport what is there.
I’m not going to watch terrible content for the sake of watching terrible content.
I’m not asking that. I’m asking you to find the good content when it is there and wetch that instead. I do watch youtube when I’m out of interesting things on peertube but peertube gets first obportunity for my eyes.
The only way to “support peertube by watching there” is to watch bad content.
There isn’t any meaningful amount of good content there.
Revanced still works fine for me Idk why people are losing their minds
Honestly, I pay for YouTube Premium but I still use Revanced and NewPipe for the extra features. Why can’t they just leave me alone?
even though this may be inconvenient, it will likely help migrating good content to less shitty platforms/companies in the long run.
I admire your optimism. I don’t share it, but I admire it.
How? Do you think channel with 2M subs will move to Vimeo? Why would anyone do that?
once the 2M subs are inactive because they got annoyed its the logical step to move to regain them
Not really likely.
Finally?
Am I weird? I don’t mean ads, I have no problem with them.
Just make me use an open source client.Good thing Firefox for Android allows plug-ins now. That’s been my go-to mobile YouTube viewer ever since. It’s almost as good as my desktop experience.
