• ParabolicMotion@lemmy.world
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    4 people who make around $50,000 per year and probably never see their families, just laid down their lives today while serving a warrant to a criminal. After all of that, the memory of their service now faces an angry mob of Americans who just want to continue calling law enforcement a bunch of murderers.

    If your children want to grow up to serve the community as law enforcement officers, just tell them to become CNA’s at retirement homes, instead. They can protect and serve the community, while defending them against the kind of abuse that no one is addressing in America. In their off time, they can work at soup kitchens, where they can protect and serve the homeless. No one is talking about how homeless lives matter, either. Apparently, only criminal lives matter to everyone now.

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      Americans who just want to continue calling law enforcement a bunch of murderers.

      We don’t just want to call police murderers, we also want them to stop murdering people.

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        Yeah, everyone wants to stop calling them murderers. It just happens that they keep on murdering.

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      While I completely agree with your second paragraph and much of it deeply resonates with me, I gotta point out that “laid down their lives” is far too passive to describe what the average cop is doing at a scene like this.

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      Ignoring all your weird takes, I just wanted to call this out.

      No one is talking about how homeless lives matter, either.

      Yeah we fucking do. We talk about providing mental health care. We talk about getting food stamps, providing housing, creating a basic income… You know, shit that Republicans continue to push to cut because “it’ll make people lazy!”

      I do like that you went to complain about all of this under a post about dead cops though.

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        My complaint is that people aren’t holding protests over the homeless problem. They will take up arms and protest in public over the police supposedly causing the wrongful death of a perpetrator, but they won’t take to the streets to address an even bigger problem.

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          If they did, which I’m not certain to say one way or the other, you wouldn’t hear about it. It’s hard to manufacture a culture war out of that. It’s easy when “protesters are attacking our helpless innocent police.”

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            I’d love to live in a world without gangs of armed, bigoted, corrupt psychopaths with extra rights and the ability to murder at will.

            Enjoy your shoe-shine flavored toothpaste

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                Why would you think such a thing? Haiti is the exact opposite of what just described.

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              You do realise you’d trade one group, who have rules they mostly follow, and consequences they occasionally face, for multiple warring groups that have no rules, right?

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            Yeah I absolutely would.

            I rather have unarmed security guards protecting neighborhoods.

            I rather have trained armed swat teams when there’s a major assault happening.

            I rather have professional detectives doing investigations.

            I rather have expert specialists do wellness checks.

            Right now, those four are under the police force, and they solve everything with a gun. Police as a whole is a giant blob of unmanaged corruption.

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        I bet if you offered any of these people a job as a police officer, they would stop all of their comments, accept the job, and act like they never said anything against law enforcement.

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            Not really. I had Reddit between 2011 and 2024. Most Lemmy users came over from Reddit.

            Anyway, why don’t you apply to work for your local law enforcement office?

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              Your account is 19 days old. Why would I go work for a systemically corrupt agency? Do you think that one person can change it?

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          Actually no, being an officer is a horrible job, and even where I live, it’s not very well paid.

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            Actually check out your state’s or provincial sunshine list. Being an officer pulls in a 6 figure salary when you include the overtime scams they run.

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                75 dollars an hour to play on your phone parked outside a construction site. Pretty great deal.

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                  Ironically, that’s what I’m doing right now, as I’m on break.

                  It’s not really a win if the only way to make decent money is to work a huge amount of overtime though, I quite like having a personal life.

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                    Just claim the overtime and go do whatever you want, whose going to stop you? The enforcers all have your back.

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                “Gee, I’d like to join a corrupt gang of psychopathic, neo-Nazi murders, but I do enjoy my free time…”

                So, the only reason you’re not a cop is because you’re lazy?

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          Becoming a cop isn’t hard… if any of these people wanted to be a cop they could easily become one but they don’t because they aren’t literall fucking monsters.