There’s compelling arguments either way. On one hand, this is a pretty naked attempt to hit at China and control the flow of the US government’s desired information.
On the other hand, the legislation isn’t technically a ban, but a forced divestment of a corporate asset. The power of the government to force the breakup, dissolution, or divestment of corporate entities is the basis of US antitrust law, and is well established.
It’s an interesting case.
The power of the government to force the breakup, dissolution, or divestment of corporate entities is the basis of US antitrust law, and is well established.
Unless of course the monopoly holder is an american corporation. Then it’s a good monopoly. We’re living in the next gilded age simply because people “forgot” monopolies are bad and those laws remain unused against giants like google, amazon, meta and many many more.
Are you forgetting that there are currently antitrust lawsuits going against both Amazon and Google? The current administration is absolutely in favor of breaking up monopolies, regardless of where the company is.
And Apple.
the current administration will go and somehow big corpos will prevail. The politicians only do what the rich allow them to do. The US even has legal corruption.
It’s at least a positive step that an attempt is being made. We need antitrust to have teeth again.
If the current administration loses in November, then yeah, it’s pretty likely that Apple, Google, and Amazon will continue to amass more power.
Sounds like a pretty solid reason to vote for retaining the current administration, yeah? Some check on power v. no check on power?
They literally said they want tiktok gone cz they can’t control the narrative: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/07/israel-al-jazeera-us-tiktok-ban
I imagine that our (U.S.) government’s case resides primarily on the premise that the state may exercise the ability to force divestment of a company with foreign ownership.
These powers are granted by the National Defense Authorization Act which seeks to prevent imminent national and private security vulnerabilities being exploited by foreign adversaries and agents; the actors here would be specifically the CCP and their intelligence and military apparatus’ shell companies and PMCs.
The precedents set by U.S. Anti-Trust laws support their position, but the primary argument in the state’s defense are the powers granted by the NDAA.
I’m only speculating.
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Surely Tiktok will also be suing the Chinese government to be unbanned there as well, right guys?
We should not throw out our rights, just because China doesn’t have those same rights.
China should be the example of a bad way to monitor the internet, not the end goal.
If Tiktok wasn’t caught censoring people’s posts for various reasons, we could consider it a free speech platform, but as it stands, it’s an advertisement platform. We’ve already lost better forms of speech on the internet. I have no horse in this particular race.
This is true for any social platform. They’re all advertisement platforms. Where is the line between censorship and moderation? The solution here isn’t to draw arbitrary lines in the sand of free speech, it’s to promote data transparency laws. Let everyone know what data is kept and how it’s used and let them decide where to go and how to put pressure on the platforms they care about for change.
Look, Tiktok has the backing of a corporation worth $225 billion. Not my problem.
I’ve donated to the EFF. Why don’t we talk more about them? The two main people complaining about the Tiktok ban are “Influences” and dopamine addicts.
Hi, I don’t use TikTok, I don’t really give a shit about that particular platform. I do, however, give a shit about the fact that this one platform is being targeted with some “think of the children” rhetoric while American companies get away with the same things (manipulation regarding current events, political propaganda, appeasing the almighty advertisers) without anyone batting an eye.
it’s an advertisement platform
Advertisements and CCP propaganda.
I was trying to be impartial. You can consider all propaganda to be a form of advertisement and all advertisement to be a form of propaganda. The same academic study goes into both.
ah yes the famous mix of communist propaganda and capitalist advertisers.
Its just a ploy to avoid any sort of reasonable privacy regulation. Tiktok doesn’t do anything that facebook, reddit, instagram, tumbler, twitter etc don’t do.
I’m going to sue the CCP because they banned my psyops platform.
…because corporations are people? Blegh.
wouldn’t it be funny if tiktok ended up overturning citizens united. infinitesimally small chance of it happening, but it would be fucking hilarious.
The US banning apps is bad precedent period. Think of the damage [Your political nemesis’ party] could do if this was allowed
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If the CCCP refuses to divest, then thats their choice. The ban only goes into effect if they refuse.
The company hasnt sued the CCCP in China to make it sell its stake, I assume.
You realize that ‘CCCP’ is the Russian initialism for the USSR?
Dammit, lol
CCP****
I thought it was the Combined Community Codec Pack - cousin to K-Lite.
Why does the US even have to hear a case where China wants to sue them? It seems like something where they should just be like “nah. No thanks”.
It is. It’s blatant censorship.
And we know why they are censoring. They don’t like that certain politics are being spread.
You mean disinformation. Disinformation is being spread. Everywhere. All of the social media companies need to be policed or banned.
Nah I’m talking about videos of genocide. They don’t want us to see that to the point that they are willing to take these drastic steps.
