• henfredemars@infosec.pub
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    Password Manager

    There will be lots of a useless accounts you have to make in life. Scale yourself. Many such accounts will not be optional. At least this one provides you with some value.

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      Hard why not both? You should use a password manager & create less accounts on platforms or sharing your phone/email if you can help it.

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        Sure, in general yes. But in reference to the comment, writing a check they would already have my name address and some reference to my bank account details even without the online account, which implies a high degree of trust.

        If I need an account to read an article on a website? Then I’m not interested in reading your article.

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          V true. I was think more along the lines of any sort of cash, debit, check transfer that doesn’t involve accounts or folks skimming money off the top rather than checks specifically when interpretting the meme.

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      Password managers are good; but keeping track of passwords is not the main problem with making online accounts for everything.

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        Every account need a valid mail direction, ofte als with 2FA a phone number, both pretty easy to track in the network. Every website know your ISP, your public IP, your OS and a lot of other data which they can store and sell it to third parties for commercial reasons. Never create an account if it is not essential for you.

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          Pretty sure that a company that I would otherwise write checks to with my name address and phone number already has the lion’s share of those details. My IP address and operating system are the least of my concern in that case.

          Hiding my IP address from the power company seems like a limited improvement.

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    Americans once again making shit more complicated than it needs to be. Most of the world has moved on from cheques to wire transfers, deposits, etc. all done through online banking.

    Every transaction is tracked and accounted for. No need for this bullshit.

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      Why is everyone calling them checks? Are we all talking about cheques? I am confused.

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      I’m American, and all of this stuff happens automatically and digitally after I set up any new account. I’m not sure how writing a check would be easier.

      Some banks still offer the transitional system I remember where they do it on your behalf, so once you have all your payees, you can go in every month and put in the amounts for each bill, and they mail a check from the bank to each place.

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      I am french, I use cheques , I also use wire transfers and many other bank option but I hope more place would accept my cheque. Also cheque transaction are tracjed and accounted just like others.

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      Because online bank accounts never get hacked, and old demented folks never fall for phishing emails… right?

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      My old appt charged a $17 fee for paying online, check is free. We still wrote checks until recently.

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          Also, most all US small to mid sized business transactions are by check.

          I’m not going to take a suitcase with over $10,000 to the city to pay a permit fee, or $50,000 Venmo to pay a business partner.

          Unless you are in the marijuana industry, then you have to…

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            Also, most all US small to mid sized business transactions are by check.

            Why? It is a bank transfer with extra steps. A check can get unreadable, get lost… No one in Germany would write a check for a permit fee or to pay a business partner. You pay online. Fast, safe, can’t get lost, easy to proof what, when to whom you have paid for years to come. And the transfer won’t get through if you do not have money on your account or are allowed to overdraw, while you can write whatever you want on a check and then run.

            It is not cash or check it is bank transfer or check and the bank transfer is the safer, faster option. All they do at a bank is to scan the check and to turn it into the exact same bank transfer it could have been in the first place. All you do is adding a layer of risk by writing on a piece of paper.

            I find that really funny, because many Germans still refuse to buy their groceries without cash, many like me do not own a credit card only debit cards, but no one younger than 90 uses a check. I am 58 years old and have never owned checks.

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              I don’t know what to tell you, but I work in business in the US and work in invoicing in the construction industry.

              Everything is done via paper, full stop.

              Bank transfers do not generate invoices, full stop. Company to company payments are made using a PO or check. Nothing else, in my experience, are accepted.

              These are for amounts of $1 to tens of millions of $$$.

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        I had an apartment that switched payment processor that jacked up my credit card fee well above my cash back (prob cuz people like me ended up saving like 10/mo), so I just switched to bank issued checks that they send for me.

        Using the checkbook I got 20 years ago is just a massive pain in the ass.

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      If it’s any indication… the last time I ordered checks their website was littered with nuisance upsell popups that significantly hindered that task (felt kinda like Indiana Jones navigating booby traps), so I think the “check industry” (if that is a thing?) is getting desperate.

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    I mean… The account exists if you log into it or not. You still need to keep track of it so that you’re paying into the correct account, and so that you know how much to pay.

    Only you now have to talk to a person if you need to check or change anything.

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      Not the account for the random hotel or restaurant. “Pay with the O’Burger app!” “Collect 425 SkyPoints with a Platinum Membership!”

      You don’t need an online account to buy food at a grocery, but if you had one I guarantee they’d spam the heck out of you, alongside whatever else they might do with your data.

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          I mean, paying for Netflix with cash would definitely be a power move.

          Utilities don’t have special offers that I know of. Check or online is very country dependent though.

          I’m having a little trouble thinking of a service that would have automatic reminders but not require an account to access the service… Hotel? Something with layaway? Maybe car payments. Tuition too. Those don’t exactly seem like spurious account services though… Maybe the reminders are for pickup?

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            My VPN sometimes sends me reminders and special offers when my contact is almost up, for example. Mobile phone data usage reminders and warnings. Even just reminders that they’re going to be charging your card on payment day.

            But mainly I don’t wanna leave home so paperless has already won for me lol

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              Ah, term based contracts, that’s the missing use case! Here I was forgetting not all contracts can be canceled whenever.

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    The postal service has recently been a victim of a lot of theft targeting checks. People are willing to rob postal workers at gunpoint for their box key. Then, thieves sift through all the letters for a chance of finding a check.

    Worse, they have ways of “washing” the check to turn it into a blank check, and reuse it with a new amount and recipient.

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    I’m old school, if I want to buy something, I go to the store with the ability to essentially examine the item, pay for it in cash and go home. Crating an account and paying with the card, with which also the bank knows what I had bought? WTF, capitalism surveillance shit.

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    What does it even mean “one less account to track?” The money is still coming from a bank account, if you track the money in your account you would still have to account for a check, and it would be even worse if the check isn’t cashed right away.

    Is it that you don’t have the monthly credit card bill if you send a check? But you’re spending the same amount of money regardless, checks are more like one-off credit card transactions, that don’t confirm payment like a credit card does. Checks are worse for the payment-neurotic. That’s maybe an argument for debit cards, it’s not an argument for checks.

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    a check? ok bye, ive never understood what the fuck that shit should do… like what about cash or just a simple transfer? why do people use checks?

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      I’ve never used a check in my life. I can’t imagine who would accept one in my country.