Four years after the United States-Mexico-Canada trade agreement (USMCA), Mexico and the U.S. face the prospect of cheap Chinese electric vehicles dominating a fast-growing market and undermining GM, Ford, and Tesla.
You good? All of your pressing concerns addressed? Everything to your meme satisfaction? Need some more documentation? Can we let the service workers go home now?
The base range is 187mi. You’re going to need to spend more if you want the 252mi range.
That’s the price in China. It costs thousands of dollars to move a vehicle halfway across the world. There’s a reason the price is Australia and Europe is significantly higher!
I don’t doubt that batteries will continue to get better and better, and cheaper and cheaper. However, there are almost no new vehicles PERIOD that are sold in the US for $15K. Maybe we’ll see EVs for $15K, but they certainly won’t have a 350mi range. By the time cheap EVs have that range, cheap cars won’t be sold for $15K due to inflation.
Electric vehicles are expected to be cheaper than ICE cars.
I completely agree, especially if people can get away from the BS “I need 350mi of range.” Better charging will hopefully help with this.
I just don’t see the price coming down fast enough for a 350mi range EV to be sold for $15,000 vs inflation. At 2% inflation, $15K in 10 years is $12,305.22 today, in $15K in 5 years is $13,585.96 today.
Most people don’t need that type of range anyways. Farther than either of my ice cars go on a tank (unless im doing only highway driving) and I fill a car once a month.
100% agree! I’m wondering if I should have clarified in my original comment that $15K EVs might be possible without ridiculous subsidies, but they aren’t going to have a 350mi range.
Why is the US so worried to the point of applying a hilariously high 100% tariff? Don’t claim security concerns because if that was really the case then they’d outright ban them instead of resorting to tariffs.
That doesn’t exist anywhere…and I frankly don’t think it ever will.
EDIT What’s with the downvotes? Does anyone want to refute this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Seagull
Fwiw 100,000 yuan is currently roughly US$13,800
And what’s the range on that? Spoiler: It’s 190 mi base with a max 252 mi. That’s nowhere near 350mi!
Okay thanks. That meme sure is inaccurate isn’t it. I’ll go have a word with the meme council and try to get that straightened out.
Your council works too slowly. Here’s the fix:
Fine here
You good? All of your pressing concerns addressed? Everything to your meme satisfaction? Need some more documentation? Can we let the service workers go home now?
Don’t feed the trolls.
Well, since you asked:
BYD and CATL have announced that battery prices will be halved again by next year.
They’re really ramping up and it will continue.
I don’t doubt that batteries will continue to get better and better, and cheaper and cheaper. However, there are almost no new vehicles PERIOD that are sold in the US for $15K. Maybe we’ll see EVs for $15K, but they certainly won’t have a 350mi range. By the time cheap EVs have that range, cheap cars won’t be sold for $15K due to inflation.
Electric vehicles are expected to be cheaper than ICE cars.
There has been a lot more money and time spend in developing ICE cars.
I completely agree, especially if people can get away from the BS “I need 350mi of range.” Better charging will hopefully help with this.
I just don’t see the price coming down fast enough for a 350mi range EV to be sold for $15,000 vs inflation. At 2% inflation, $15K in 10 years is $12,305.22 today, in $15K in 5 years is $13,585.96 today.
Most people don’t need that type of range anyways. Farther than either of my ice cars go on a tank (unless im doing only highway driving) and I fill a car once a month.
100% agree! I’m wondering if I should have clarified in my original comment that $15K EVs might be possible without ridiculous subsidies, but they aren’t going to have a 350mi range.
To be fair and honest I could possibly touch 350 if I wasn’t running E85 and being a very very good boy. But still a ridiculous goalpost.
You provide no proof of the facts you state, therefore it’s just as easy for me to say you’re wrong as it is to believe you. 🤷🏼♂️
How am I supposed to prove that a $15K 350mi EV doesn’t exist? It’s Russell’s teapot.
Downvotes are due to China shills and people who don’t understand reality. EVERY post about Chinese EVs goes exactly the same way.
Why is the US so worried to the point of applying a hilariously high 100% tariff? Don’t claim security concerns because if that was really the case then they’d outright ban them instead of resorting to tariffs.
You’re just hunkering down inside your bubble, while offering nothing to the conversation.
There’s a BYD stand close to where I work, I was looking at a “Dolphin” that has around 500 miles of range and costs 30k€.
That’s still twice as what’s in the meme, but they keep getting closer.
If you have some sort of grudge against China automakers, Dacia has its Spring. It costs about what’s in the meme, but with half the range though.
It’s not hard to see a future where 350 miles for 15k is a reality, but the market needs competition.