Thursday’s presidential debate debacle — widely regarded as a low point for President Joe Biden, who appeared feeble and sometimes confused — many Democratic elites and nonpartisan pundits are suggesting a break-the-glass-in-case-of-emergency move that resided on the margins of conventional political thought just a week ago: The incumbent president, they argue, should step aside in the interest of the country, and delegates should name his replacement at the upcoming Democratic National Convention.
Any move to replace Biden just four months before the election carries considerable risk. The party can ill afford to pass over its sitting vice president, Kamala Harris, who represents a core Democratic constituency as a Black woman — but Harris consistently underperforms in polling. And allowing delegates to make such a momentous decision, negating the will of millions of primary voters and turning a nomination process that has been the norm for decades upside-down, is surely a recipe for division and rancor.
But it’s not like we haven’t been here before. On March 31, 1968, Lyndon B. Johnson stunned the nation when he announced that he was pulling out of that year’s presidential election. The Democratic National Convention that followed several months later devolved into chaos and violence and left the party’s eventual nominee, Vice President Hubert Humphrey, hobbled at the start of the fall campaign season. He ultimately lost a painfully close election to Richard Nixon, in no small part because of the unruly convention in Chicago.
These kinds of posts are actively harming our chances of avoiding a fascist take over. Can you not? The convicted felon was just listed even more times on the infamous pedophiles private docs, is there not an article about that you can post? gotta make sure everyone keeps talking about how an old man had an old man moment. An old man that’s helping the IRS go after the 1%, helping the EPA regulate carbon emissions, helping medicare lower drug prices, helping student loan borrowers reduce their burden, helping fucking Ukraine while it defends itself against the soft-launch of WWIII… I’m sure there’s more I’m missing.
I’ll vote for a corpse over fucking fascism. Biden passing would mean a strong black woman gets put in charge, and however much I disagree with some of her positions, I would take almost any black woman over drumpf. 99% chance of them being 1000x better for working families than the convicted felon pedophile rapist.
It looks like Trump’s involvement with the Epstein docs has been completely blacklisted by the U.S.
This is where I found a story- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/before-marrying-melania-in-2005-what-new-documents-claim-about-trump-epstein/articleshow/111465121.cms
Trump is likely going to win, the sooner you accept that the sooner you stop whining that people are engaging in civil discussion over a massive fucking mistake waiting to happen: running a feeble old guy who is likely to pop his clogs soon, who voters will avoid because of his poor performance in front of millions of people.
We’re not having discussion for discussion’s sake. We want a new candidate so that Trump’s win isn’t actually an eventuality.
Indeed. If a candidate cannot stand up to some online scrutiny, I can’t see there being much hope.
Someone remind me of what happened after Johnson was replaced and how that worked out for the Democrats…
I don’t like Biden. None of us here appear to like Biden. The problem is that no one can agree on who would be best to replace him with. Unless that can be resolved right away, we’re stuck with Biden whether or not that means failure. Honestly, at this point, I’m seeing Trump’s presidency as a horrific inevitability.
This is why, despite the fact that many of us also dislike Kamala, she should be the only name in the running, and he shouldn’t wait until the convection to step aside. He should resign now, let Kamala be president for a few months, and then she can run in the election as an incumbent with full party support. No one else can legally claim his delegates or even use the campaign’s money, only she can do that if he resigns. This would be the only real way to force the DCCC into not shitting the bed, which is their default setting. Any other approach, in my opinion, is a recipe for mayhem at the convention, and yeah, an inevitable Trump presidency.
I don’t think a black woman has much of a chance of being elected president in this climate, but even if that weren’t the case, it’s my understanding that she’s even more disliked than Biden.
I think a black woman with Obama’s gravitas would mop the floor with trump. She doesn’t have that, and she’s got a ton of baggage too.
I think we can Weekend at Bernie’s him until he passes. Then we get Kamala, which is not bad.
I think a lot of the federal government can run on its own as long as there are competent people in the cabinet.
Kamala is bad. Not as bad as trump. But bad.
Why?
ACAB
Looked up the answer myself. I suppose yours is a good summation once someone has some knowledge.
Btw, the reason I asked is because we need to stop assuming everyone knows everything, especially about politics. Let’s take the few seconds necessary to explain for those that don’t know. The impact that will have is hard to measure, though it would likely be quite positive.
So it has happened before, and we already know what happened last time. Doesn’t seem a very convincing argument for Biden to step down.
