• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I don’t. Look, we already had this discussion years ago. You don’t feel bad for the stormtrooper, or their families when you blow up the deathstar. They knew what they were getting into.

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      5 months ago

      But they didn’t. The guy had me in the first half when he cried because Buzz Aldrin didn’t like him. Elon wasn’t always so obvious with his bullshit. There was a time when he looked minted as a purveyor of a bright future - the mask slipped.

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        5 months ago

        The mask has been off for at least 8 years.

        No sympathy for anyone who still stans that phony.

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          When did he call that rescuer a “pedo”? Because that’s when I changed my mind on him forever.

          Edit: It was June 2018.

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            5 months ago

            Then he fired his PR team not long after that. He pushed out all the people getting paid to help him not look like an idiot.

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            Musk should likely have all his storage media searched, just randomly accusing people of things like pedophilia for no reason is often projection, “don’t look at me, I clearly can’t be one as I’m the most vocal about being against them, look over here instead” or whatever

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              What Elon did was terrible, but it wasn’t “for no reason”

              The dude attacked him in the media, and Elon is petty and vindictive.

              Was the harshness of Elon’s response representative of the attack? Absolutely not. But it wasn’t nothing.

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                The guy told it like it was. It was a PR stunt and nothing more. His submarine was rigid and stood zero chance of navigating the intricate cave system, of which the caver was an expert. Elon didn’t like his sub (and him by extension) being ridiculed, so he used his social media clout to make an unsubstantiated and nigh libelous claim that the guy was a pedophile.

                Whatever Elon’s retaliatory reasons are for his vindictiveness, a rational person can safely assume that those reasons are tied to his hollow soul and crêpe-paper-thin ego.

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                    5 months ago

                    I was bullied as a child, and I now work as a math teacher in Title I schools and engage in mutual aid. What’s your point? Why are you making excuses for that cunt?

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                Yeah see there is a thing called disproportionate response.

                If you’ve got a guy with 100 million followers talking shit about someone else and making wild accusations against them against another person who has practically no following at all, then the response is far too powerful for the issue at hand.

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      5 months ago

      I mean, the stormtroopers were largely either conscripted, or they were clones who were raised in it. Very few were actual mercenaries or people who had a choice to join or not. I still feel bad for them.

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      5 months ago

      Stormtroopers is fair. What about maintenance staff?

      What about prisoners?

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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z6SFL5fCCg

      they built another deathstar right? the first one was completed and fully operational before the rebels destroyed it and the second one was still being built when it was blown up

      the first death star was manned by the imperial army only people on board were stormtroopers dignitaries imperials so when they blew it up no problem evil punished

      the second time around it was not even done being built yet was still under construction job of that magnitude would require a hell of lot more manpower than the imperial army had to offer

      bet they brought in independent contractors in on that thing plumbers aluminum siders roofers

      in order to get built quickly and quietly they would hire anyone to do the job you think the average stormtrooper knows how to install a toilet main

      all they know is killing in white uniforms

      all those innocent contractors brought in to do job are killed casualties of a war they had nothing to do with

      alright look you’re roofer some juicy government comes your way you got a wife the two kids in suburbia

      this is a government contract with all sort of benefits and along come these left wing militants and blast everything in a three mile radius with their lasers

      they did not ask for that they had no personal politics they were just trying to scrape out a living

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        “Innocent contractors”

        Wtf 🤮

        In my book it doesn’t matter if you are building or operating the gas chambers.

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          5 months ago

          I’m a little surprised that this comment has gotten so many upvotes.

          Would you apply this same logic to the real world? For example, imagine if a manufacturing facility for Lockheed Martin or General Dynamics was bombed and thousands of working class Americans died. These people are building bombs that are being used in an ongoing genocide.

          Would you consider this a heinous terrorist act, or a noble strike in the fight for freedom?

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              what about the restaurants that feed those workers? or the farmers that grow the crops? or the worker’s families

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                5 months ago

                Since you are maliciously leading it in this direction I will intentionally skip to the end.

                We should kill every human because we share DNA.

                Happy ?

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      5 months ago

      Especially when the job market contracted with all the IT company layoffs, some people may be stuck in jobs they hate because opportunities are few and they’d rather not be homeless or have their kids not have food and so on.