Just started Lemmying today. Have lots of questions. Someone mentioned mod logs, so I went down a rabbit hole reading mod logs. The only reason I left reddit was because many mods are dicks. But reading the logs, it seems mods ban people and censor like crazy here too. Isn’t Lemmy supposed to be more free and open? How is this different from Reddit? I honestly don’t understand.
It’s different from Reddit because if you don’t like the way your instance is moderated you can just use another instance and still see content from another
Okay. I don’t quite understand instances yet, but I think I see what you’re saying.
Instead of one central Reddit, imagine hundreds of mini-Reddits each with their own users, communities, rules, culture, etc. Now connect them all together so the users on each mini-Reddit can read/post/comment on any of the others. That basically how this works; each Lemmy instance is a mini-Reddit in a sea of peers.
May I suggest…
I’ve been saying that day 1 new here is very overwhelming. I’ve been suggesting a whole “new to Lemmy” wiki, which explains all the normal questions. Until then, I reccomend this community.
Also…don’t call us Lemmings. Some people do it, and I’m trying to stop them. I prefer fediversians.
I’ve been suggesting a whole “new to Lemmy” wiki, which explains all the normal questions.
There is an FAQ in that community: https://sopuli.xyz/post/5798877?scrollToComments=true
Feel free to comment there with additional tips
You unintentionally bring up a point I’ve been confused about. How do I get rid of ?scrollToComments=true when I browse? I want my browser to stay at the top when I click a topic. Instead it ALWAYS skips the content, and scrolls me to the comments. I clicked for the content! I want my page to load at the top, and I’ll scroll as I read.
How do I change that?
Click on the title rather than the comments icon:
Each community has rules which are outlined on the sidebar, so, generally, moderation follows those rules and when content is removed, the reasoning is generally publicly available on the modlog.
When I mod something, I specifically add a reply indicating why it was removed, this is because I fucking hated the whole reddit:
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Mods here are horrible. They are the worst.
Source: am mod
But it’s easier to circumvent horrible mods by migrating to a different community or instance.
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This is such a great analogy. All of my adult life I’ve listened to people bitch about how horrible HOAs are…and also people go running to complain to the HOA the instant a neighbor does something they don’t like. It’s funny how people want it both ways. “Rules for thee, not for me” is a contagion I guess.
I’ve been hearing arbitrary ban in reddit, also heard the same complain here but it’s mostly from individual that have comment with thinly veiled vitriol. Still, there’s a few incident with power mods, but iirc it’s been resolved. Might pop up in the future though.
The culture here is a bit different due to the nature of self hosting, sometime admin get called power tripping but then it’s their server and people who contributed to the cost have no problem with the rule being set up and enforced.
I got banned by reddit by an AI automod. The messages had nothing wrong with them.
My thing is vitriol should be allowed. Some people deserve vitriol. Same for trolling. Sometimes trolling is funny. Mods get carte blanche to decide what goes. I’m not trying to pretend to be Mr Rogers to keep from getting banned.
the good news is that if you dislike/disagree with any decision by a mod or admin you’ll always still have the option to either:
- Instance Hop🐇
- Host Your Own Instance🤗
Or just mod your own community
yup, also true!👍
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Wtf where’s the tendies
If you don’t find instances or communities that have a level of moderation you appreciate, you could still start your own imstance with your own/no rules and federate with the Lemmy universe.
However, if ‘your’ rules are too controversial, you might not find other people willing to engage with your communities and other instances might even decide to block your server.
I feel that people and discussions on Lemmy are less toxic compared to Reddit. With less toxic I mean less insults, less provocations, less trolling etc. and more (from my perspective) valuable and deeper discussions instead. And a generally more supportive and open-minded attitude.
Main reason is probably that a large part of Lemmy users is quite homogeneous: left leaning, IT focused, rather young people etc. You always have to bear in mind that opinions here are not necessarily representative for the society as a whole.
Regarding trolling: I personally rarely appreciate trolls and I’m happy that mods are setting certain boundaries in the communities I engage with.
Mods are mods, doesn’t matter where you go, they cannot be escaped.
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Not in !casualconversation@lemm.ee
Content moderation isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Just be glad Reddit and Lemmy are transparent about it unlike certain Musk and Zuck-owned websites…
Absolutely. Even if you don’t break their stupid rules you can get called out and removed.
How is this different from Reddit? I honestly don’t understand.
The basic principle of the mods has been copied from reddit, and the mods here are former reddit mods. The 2 saddest facts about lemmy.
Therefore lots of mod problems are the same. They got the power, you got nothing. They are higher beings. They never justify or explain themselves. Modlogs are minimalistic and not helpful.
Don’t forget the furry p*rn stash…
Thats on Lemmy too, sooooo…
Nah!! Lemmy is cool…
Furry porn is cool too.
Not my thing tbh, but if someone is into it I don’t give a flying fuck anyway.