Meta “programmed it to simply not answer questions,” but it did anyway.

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    Kaplan noted that AI chatbots “are not always reliable when it comes to breaking news or returning information in real time,” because “the responses generated by large language models that power these chatbots are based on the data on which they were trained, which can at times understandably create some issues when AI is asked about rapidly developing real-time topics that occur after they were trained.”

    If you’re expecting a glorified autocomplete to know about things it doesn’t have in its training data, you’re an idiot.

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      Some services will use glorified RAG to put more current info in the context.

      But yeah, if it’s just the raw model, I’m not sure what they were expecting.

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      Yeah, the average person is the idiot here, for something they never asked for, and for something they see no value in. Companies threw billions of dollars at this emerging technology. Many things like Google Search have hallucinating, error-prone AI forced into the main product that is impossible to opt-out or use the (working) legacy version now…

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        Nobody is forcing you to use it.

        I’m using it and I see great value in it. And if there are people that see value in a product then it’s worth the investment.

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          Yes, people are being forced to use it if they want to, for instance, search using Google or Bing.

          As the parent comment suggested, or there’s no way to opt out, currently.

          I’m glad you see value in it; I think the injection of LLM queries into search results I want to contain accurate results (and nothing more) a useless waste of power.

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            Injecting that into search result is a bad thing, I’m with you on that. Try DuckDuckGo. They use Bing but don’t insert all of that AI crap. The results are much more vanilla. It’s actually easier to find stuff because it’s not that cluttered.

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          I always ask all people defending AI, or rather LLMs, what’s the great value they all mention in their comments. So far the “best” answer I got was one dude using LLMs to extract info from decades old reports that no one has checked in 20 years hahaha. So glad we are allowing LLMs to deetroy the environment and plagiarize all creative work for that lol.

          So, what is the great value you see man?

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            It was never made for information retrieval. It’s made for high-level reasoning and language understanding. That is where it shines. You completely misunderstand what this is all about. You’re trying to use a car to paint a wall.

            There is really no argument against LLMs if they are used correctly. Just relax a bit and embrace it with a bit more curiosity. It won’t kill mankind, just like fire, agriculture, or the steam engine has.

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              Me? I’m not using LLMs at all hahaha. I’m asking you, who says they have great value, to provide examples of their uses. I just provided pretty much the only one I have heard, which some random dude told me in a different thread. Everyone else, like you, just keeps it abstract and just bullshits and bullshits hahaha.

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                Great use is subjective. But I use them to better understand university lectures. I can have a real discussion, ask questions, ask for examples and so on. I had countless situations where web searches would not have helped me because the ressources cannot do reasoning to explain intuitions. I’m also using it for coding. It’s awesome for boilerplate code. I also sometimes ask it to improve my existing code, so I can learn new coding practicesand tricks from that.

                None of these applications require the LLM to be correct 100% of the time. It’s still great value for me. And when I suspect that it’s wrong about something or it’s hallucinating or bad at explaining something, I’ll just do some web searches for validation.

                You might not find it useful because you’re using it wrong, or simply because you have no application for the value it can provide. But that doesn’t mean it’s all bad. OP certainly doesn’t know how to use it. I would never even think about asking it about historical events.

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                  So literally you use it for information retrieval hahahaha. I did use copilot, codium, and the jetbrains one for a bit. But I had to disable each one, the amount fo wrong code simply doesn’t justify the little boilerplate it generates.

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    The shooting happened after the end of the training date. Like asking windows 95 clippy about 9/11 and it saying it didn’t happen.

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    Well, if the chatbot learned anything from Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can’t complete a coherent sentence, it learned that you never tell the truth.

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    Does the AI consistently say that, no matter who asks?

    Because if so, that’s not a hallucination.