Israeli settlers torch Palestinian village in West Bank
www.bbc.com
The Palestinian health ministry says one man was killed and another was critically injured
  • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    1072·
    3 months ago

    The Israelis don’t treat Palestinians like they are human beings. They don’t care to make generations of enemies with their war crimes.

      • primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        3 months ago

        not true! look at all the riots and almost civil war that happened when a judge said maybe you don’t have the right to rape palestinian prisoners!

        their orifices and screams are also valued. something something chopping wood.

    • xhrit@lemmy.worldEnglish
      279·
      3 months ago

      Did you say the same thing about palestinians on oct 7th or do you have some sort of antisemetic double standard where you think it is acceptable to judge all israeli’s by the actions of a few, but do not think its acceptable to judge all palestinains based on the actions of a few?

      • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.eeEnglish
        372·
        3 months ago

        There’s that word. “Antisemitism”. Put it back in the deck Moishe, It’s not winning you any arguments.

      • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        181·
        3 months ago

        Both sides have a lot of hatred and resentment toward each other. The problem is that the power balance is extremely heavily in favor of Israel, and they are able to exert their will on the Palestinians through force the Palestinians have no answer for.

        But yes, killing innocent people is bad whenever it happens, and no, not all Israelis are bad, just the government, military, and settlers. One admittedly horrific massacre does not give Israel license to commit genocide on the Palestinian people, which is precisely what is happening right now.

        • Doorbook@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          3 months ago

          Yes let’s compare them together:

          A group of designated terrorists, absorbed into, a military force, that forces all European and North American citizens to join their forces and continue it “killing” and “stealing” of other people land. Compared in haterd for people who got their stuff stolen, killed, and oppressed in their damn land.

          It is like police killing black people and a politician goes on about how trust between the community need to be built again. When it is one sided oppression.

        • primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.worldEnglish
          41·
          3 months ago

          the thing is, as shown here, there are no zionist civilians. not one. they are all armed ready and not just willing but eager to fight.

          that isn’t to say there aren’t any sort of resistance, but while they’re not quite partisans yet, friendly fire is not the same as killing civilians.

          • xhrit@lemmy.worldEnglish
            110·
            3 months ago

            80% of American jews self identify as zionists.

            Are you honestly arguing that american jews who have never been to israel and have never served in any military are valid targets to be killed by the palestinian ‘resistance’?

            • IAmNotACat@lemmy.worldEnglish
              21·
              3 months ago

              ‘I’m not the one killing you, but I do support the people killing you, and may even be financially aiding their efforts.’

          • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            51·
            3 months ago

            Being forced from your homes; deprived of food, water, and healthcare; and tortured and terrorized is genocide by any definition.

            Comparing the effectiveness of your genocide to the effectiveness of Nazi genocide does not help your cause.

            • xhrit@lemmy.worldEnglish
              12·
              3 months ago

              genocide has a very specific definition under international law and “tortured and terrorized” is not genocide. It is torture, and terror.

              Do you consider Hamas’ terror attacks and torture of civilian hostages to be genocide against Israel? Of course you don’t. Why? Is it the lack of effectiveness of your genocide that makes you OK with it?

              • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                11·
                3 months ago

                Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group

                The destruction of Gaza and the continued displacement in the West Bank for this definition. Israel is destroying Palestine and the Palestinian people. That definition is from the Holocaust Museum.

          • IAmNotACat@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            3 months ago

            An outright instantaneous genocide would bring about too much bad publicity.

            Crippling the sovereign functionality of Palestinians along with killing and displacing ‘enough’ of them to prevent them from clawing any of that functionality back is the goal, and that’s what is happening.

            • xhrit@lemmy.worldEnglish
              12·
              3 months ago

              Typical fascist doublespeak, the enemy is both too strong and too weak. They are strong enough to do genocide, but too weak to actually do genocide so they have to do a hidden conspiracy super secret slow motion genocide which means will literally never actually finish the genocide they started.

            • xhrit@lemmy.worldEnglish
              12·
              3 months ago

              So it’s only genocide, if you redefine genocide to mean “crippling the sovereign functionality” instead of “destroying the people”.

    • bobalot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1111·
      3 months ago

      Israel is only creating living space in the east.

      EDIT: Turns out I needed the /s

      • primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        3 months ago

        I would say this is closer to the japanese version than the german one, since the riots about ‘you are not entitled to rape them, only kill them’ and the governent capitulating.

        edit: see: the public competitions about which officers could behead the most chinese VS some german POW’s vomitting or shouting that it had to be lies when they saw video of the death camps. the rhetoric of ‘chopping wood’ used by the nearest moral equivalent to a zionist that has ever existed.

  • eestileib@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    37·
    3 months ago

    Yes, it’s definitely the residents of Gaza and the West Bank who are committing genocide against the residents of Israel.

    Definitely.

  • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
    20·
    3 months ago

    Is conjuring the image of pogroms and burning shtetls antisemitic? Asking for a friend.

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      3 months ago

      I’ll be antisemitic apparently if I tell this to an Israeli. They’ve also by now have that firm belief that their genocide was qualitatively worse than other genocides.

      That society is degenerate. For real. They need some real bombs falling on their heads.

      They think a few murders and bus bombings are equivalent to them leveling cities. They think they already were at war. They think they are already answering with their lives for what their government is doing by fair price.

      They need real feedback. A couple of days, maybe a week of bombardment similar to what their state has been doing to Gaza.

      It has done wonders to Europe and Germany in particular. This is the only way.

  • iAvicenna@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9·
    3 months ago

    well is this the level of backlash required to force israil to use civil pawns to continue the terrorism?

    • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      201·
      3 months ago

      Settler Violence is deliberate, and exploited by the Israeli State to continue ethnic cleansing & Settler Colonialism in the West Bank with plausible deniability

      The state takes over land openly, using official methods sanctioned by legal advisors and judges, while the settlers, who are also interested in taking over land to further their agenda, initiate violence against Palestinians for their own reasons. Yet in truth, there is only one track: Settler violence against Palestinians is part of the strategy employed by Israel’s apartheid regime, which seeks to take over more and more West Bank land. The state fully supports and assists these acts of violence, and its agents sometimes participate in them directly. As such, settler violence is a form of government policy, aided and abetted by official state authorities with their active participation.

      The combination of state violence and nominally unofficial violence allows Israel to have it both ways: maintain plausible deniability and blame the violence on settlers rather than on the military, the courts or the Civil Administration while advancing Palestinian dispossession. The facts, however, blow plausible deniability out of the water: When the violence occurs with permission and assistance from the Israeli authorities and under its auspices, it is state violence. The settlers are not defying the state; they are doing its bidding.

      • jonne@infosec.pubEnglish
        22·
        3 months ago

        I’m amazed that they finally mentioned Israel in the headline. You’d expect the BBC to write something like ‘West Bank village burns down’.

        • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          72·
          3 months ago

          Nah thats not fair to the BBC. They were fairly neutral on this and refrained from calling hamas a terrorist org until they were heavily pressured into doing so. They constantly get bullied by zionists for not being pro israel enough. Yes they could do better, but they are much more neutral than most.