There is a list of people I expect to be there. If the most heinous examples of total pieces of shit known to humanity are not in hell then the term is meaningless. Not that there is any evidence to support its existence.
How could anyone even know hell is infinite? Humans have been around, what, ~10k years? ~6k years of you’re a young earth creationist. Six million life sentences (call it a hundred years) wouldn’t even have begun to be complete.
I’m just going by the commonly accepted canon. Perhaps a temporary hell would work, maybe, though that concept already exists in Christianity as purgatory which is not commonly thought to be the same thing.
I’m genuinely not able to figure out what you’re trying to say. My best interpretation is that you’re saying no one deserves eternal damnation in response to a comment about Hitler going to hell. If that’s the case, what a weird take my dude
That’s indeed what he was saying. If there’s any actual concept of Justice on a cosmic level, then “eternity” is certainly not a “just” punishment for anything done by a mortal, subject to circumstances and born into a world they had no choice in. In a “just” universe with a punitive afterlife, Hitler would get back an equivalent amount of suffering to that which he caused. So maybe a few hundred million years worth of suffering, but not eternity.
Didn’t Hell get made up relatively recently, like only 200 years ago? OG Christianity was all about everyone getting into heaven.
Nah, it’s in the Bible though it isn’t called “Hell.” I vaguely remember a specific verse referring to the place prepared for the devil and his demons or something like that. Also there are Hebrew references to “Sheol” that some interpret as Hell.
Also even if it were more recent than the Bible itself, 200 years ago was the 1820s. Martin Luther grew up terrified of Hell as it was preached by the Roman Catholic Church in the late 1400s/early 1500s. And Dante’s Inferno was written in the 1300s.
Jesus told us not to judge others for the sins that we ourselves also commit. All the time we spend trying to decide the state of others’ souls would be far better spent taking the logs out of our eyes before yelling at others about the specks in theirs. Other people’s salvation isn’t your problem, you can’t force people to accept Jesus. (Especially after they have already died.) You can, and should, instead become a shining beacon of grace that attracts people to the faith.
Someone else mentioned whether or not Hitler is in hell. I really don’t care if he is. It isn’t my problem. Jesus saved a man who was right beside him in crucifixion moments before they died, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to hang my entire faith on the salvation of a certain person.
If you’re curious, you should read what some classical Christian writers have said about Hell. The best summary I can give is that it’s a place of such unbridled, horrifying hatred that people will tear the flesh off their bodies and throw it at other people while burning alive because they hate each other so much.
There is a list of people I expect to be there. If the most heinous examples of total pieces of shit known to humanity are not in hell then the term is meaningless. Not that there is any evidence to support its existence.
Agreed. The OP comment suggests it’s above my pay grade to suggest Hitler would go to hell if it exists, which is just baffling.
Infinite punishment can never be just for anything done in a finite time, no matter how henious.
Not that I’m saying hell or heaven exists, but if hell were truly eternal, it couldn’t be just even towards to worst of the worst.
How could anyone even know hell is infinite? Humans have been around, what, ~10k years? ~6k years of you’re a young earth creationist. Six million life sentences (call it a hundred years) wouldn’t even have begun to be complete.
I’m just going by the commonly accepted canon. Perhaps a temporary hell would work, maybe, though that concept already exists in Christianity as purgatory which is not commonly thought to be the same thing.
I’m genuinely not able to figure out what you’re trying to say. My best interpretation is that you’re saying no one deserves eternal damnation in response to a comment about Hitler going to hell. If that’s the case, what a weird take my dude
That’s indeed what he was saying. If there’s any actual concept of Justice on a cosmic level, then “eternity” is certainly not a “just” punishment for anything done by a mortal, subject to circumstances and born into a world they had no choice in. In a “just” universe with a punitive afterlife, Hitler would get back an equivalent amount of suffering to that which he caused. So maybe a few hundred million years worth of suffering, but not eternity.
From an actual christian viewpoint, it is. “Vengeance is mine (alone)”
Edit: Actually, a reference isn’t hard to come by, so https://biblehub.com/niv/romans/12.htm
I genuinely have no desire to read Bible references at this point in my life.
Didn’t Hell get made up relatively recently, like only 200 years ago? OG Christianity was all about everyone getting into heaven.
Nah, it’s in the Bible though it isn’t called “Hell.” I vaguely remember a specific verse referring to the place prepared for the devil and his demons or something like that. Also there are Hebrew references to “Sheol” that some interpret as Hell.
Also even if it were more recent than the Bible itself, 200 years ago was the 1820s. Martin Luther grew up terrified of Hell as it was preached by the Roman Catholic Church in the late 1400s/early 1500s. And Dante’s Inferno was written in the 1300s.
Jesus warned people very, very frequently against going to where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth AKA Hell. It was one of his favorite subjects.
Jesus told us not to judge others for the sins that we ourselves also commit. All the time we spend trying to decide the state of others’ souls would be far better spent taking the logs out of our eyes before yelling at others about the specks in theirs. Other people’s salvation isn’t your problem, you can’t force people to accept Jesus. (Especially after they have already died.) You can, and should, instead become a shining beacon of grace that attracts people to the faith.
Someone else mentioned whether or not Hitler is in hell. I really don’t care if he is. It isn’t my problem. Jesus saved a man who was right beside him in crucifixion moments before they died, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to hang my entire faith on the salvation of a certain person.
If you’re curious, you should read what some classical Christian writers have said about Hell. The best summary I can give is that it’s a place of such unbridled, horrifying hatred that people will tear the flesh off their bodies and throw it at other people while burning alive because they hate each other so much.