• Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        …being in nursing school is giving me a strong hatred for the imperial system.

        The doctor ordered 35mg/kg Watdafuqenol IV QID. Available is a 2’ by 15" section of torn out carpet soaked in spilled Watdafuqenol; when wrung out into the patient’s left shoe, you get 97 chipmunk-mouthfuls diluted to a concentration of 24 Watdafuqenol to 1 toe jam. How many shot glasses full do you administer?

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        Metric is excellent until it gets into data units. There shouldn’t be a difference between 4T and 4TB, but it’s actually a (10244-10004) ≈ 92.6G (99.5GB) difference because of the fuckers who decided to make data units metric and rename the base-2 data units to “kibibyte”/“mibi*”/“gibi*” (KiB/MiB/GiB)

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          I think the biggest mistake there is using SI prefixes (such as kilo, mega, giga, tera) with bytes (or bits) to refer to the power of two near a power of ten in the first place. Had computer people had used other names for 1024 bytes and the like, this confusion between kibibytes and kilobytes could have been avoided. Computer people back then could have come up with a set of base·16 prefixes and used that for measuring data.

          Maybe something like 65,536 bytes = 1,0000 (base 16) = 1 myri·byte; ‭4,294,967,296 bytes = 1,0000,0000 (base 16) = dyri·byte; and so on in groups of four hex digits instead of three decimal digits (16¹² = tryri·byte, 16¹⁶ = tesri·byte, etc). That’s just one system I pulled out of my ass (based on the myriad, and using Greek numbers to count groups of digits), and surely one can come up with a better system.

          Anyways, while it’d take me a while to recognize one kilobyte as 1000 bytes and not as 1024 bytes, I think it’s better that ‘kilo’ always means 1000 times something in as many situations as possible.

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            2 months ago

            There is no reason whatsoever to use base 16 for computer storage it is both unconnected to technology and common usage it is worse than either base 2 or 10

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              I guess? I just pulled that example out of my ass earlier, thinking well, hexadecimal is used heavily in computing, so maybe something with powers of 16 would do just fine.

              At any rate, my point is that using a prefix system that is different and easily distinguishable from the metric SI prefixes would have been way better.

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                2 months ago

                They could have easily used base 2 which is actually connected to how the hardware works and just called it something else

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                  I realized why I didn’t think of base 2 in my previous reply. For one, hexadecimal (base 16) often used in really low-level programming, as a shorthand for working in base 2 because base 2 is unwieldy. Octal (base 8) was also used, but not so much nowadays. Furthermore, even when working in base 2, they’re often grouped into four bits: a nibble. A nibble corresponds to one hexadecimal digit.

                  Now, I suppose that we’re just going to use powers of two, not base-2, so maybe it’d help if we do a comparison. Below is a table that compares some powers of two, the binary prefixes, and the system I described earlier:

                  Decimal value Value with corresponding binary prefix Hexadecimal Value Value with prefixes based on powers of 16
                  20 1 1 1 1
                  24 16 16 10 16
                  28 256 256 100 256
                  210 1 024 1 Ki 400 1 024
                  212 4 096 4 Ki 1000 4 096
                  216 65 536 64 Ki 1 0000 1 myri
                  220 1 048 576 1 Mi 10 0000 16 myri
                  224 16 777 216 16 Mi 100 0000 256 myri
                  228 268 435 456 256 Mi 1000 0000 4 096 myri
                  230 1 073 741 824 1 Gi 4000 0000 16 384 myri
                  232 4 294 967 296 4 Gi 1 0000 0000 1 dyri
                  236 68 719 476 736 32 Gi 10 0000 0000 16 dyri
                  240 1 099 511 627 776 1 Ti 100 0000 0000 256 dyri
                  244 17 592 186 044 416 16 Ti 1000 0000 0000 4 096 dyri
                  248 281 474 976 710 656 256 Ti 1 0000 0000 0000 1 tryri
                  250 1 125 899 906 842 624 1 Pi 4 0000 0000 0000 4 tryri
                  252 4 503 599 627 370 496 4 Pi 10 0000 0000 0000 16 tryri
                  256 72 057 594 037 927 936 64 Pi 100 0000 0000 0000 256 tryri
                  260 1 152 921 504 606 846 976 1 Ei 1000 0000 0000 0000 4 096 tryri
                  264 18 446 744 073 709 551 616 16 Ei 1 0000 0000 0000 0000 1 tesri

                  Each row of the table (except for the rows for 210 and 250) would be requiring a new prefix if we’re to be working with powers of 2 (four apart, and more if it’d be three apart instead). Meanwhile, using powers of 16 would require less prefixes, but would require larger numerals before changing over to the next prefix (a maximum of 164 - 1 = 216 - 1 = 65 535)

                  One thing that works to your argument’s favor is the fact that 1024 = 210. But I think that’s what caused this entire MiB vs. MB confusion in the first place.

                  However, having said all that, I would have been happy with just using an entirely different set of prefixes, and kept the values based on 210.

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            Everybody knew exactly what kilo mega and giga ment. when drive vendors deliberatly lied on there pdf’s about their drive sizes. Warnings were issued: this drive will not work in a raid as a replacement for same size!!. And everybody was throwing fumes on mailinglists about the bullshit situation.

            But money won, as usual.

            Source: threw fumes!

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              Not too sure if they outright lied, but I suppose we can say that they used the change to make their drives seem larger!

              That’s why I wished computer people had used a prefix system distinct from the SI ones. If we’re measuring our storage devices in yeetibytes rather than gigabytes, for example, then I suppose there’s less chance that we’ve ended up in this situation.