I mean, this is how businesses work in general. If you don’t buy their products/services, then they wouldn’t be able to continue providing them.
I understand that we’re trying to draw attention to exploitative landlords, but if anyone can afford to keep their property regardless of whether or not you pay rent, it’s the exploitative ones.
I mean, this is how businesses work in general. If you don’t buy their products/services, then they wouldn’t be able to continue providing them.
Of course people can simply refuse to buy housing and end up on the street, which isn’t dangerous or criminalized or anything/s
Additionally the meme is disingenuous. Meant to appeal to emotion. What Elmo and Zoe are conveniently ignoring is that the party who is being provided with housing is the tenant.
CAPITAL-ism is aimed and designed to benefit those with the capital.
I hate this about our system. To combat this i am sharing equity with the guy that rents a room. I’m tracking how much his rent payments go to paying off the mortgage (which I can make myself, it’s just a larger house with rooms to spare) he will get a check based off the percent he paid off on sale, or a percentage of revenue if we end up keeping and paying it off years later. Finance people think I’m crazy giving up that much equity. I just hated tossing rent money to the void, so I figured now that I’m in a position to change my little corner of the world, I will.
The finance people (and sadly, many many others) think making the number bigger is a more important and worthwhile goal than making your corner of the world a better place. So good on you for being a compassionate human!
Have you consulted with a lawyer about this? The laws differ from place to place, but I’d be worried the equity you give him may also grant him some sort of claim on the house, which would mean he gets a say on financial things related to the real estate. This can complicate things in the future.
Also - what does “percentage of revenue if we end up keeping and paying it off years later” mean? That after he leaves you will pay him for his share in your house?
I have and officially on paper he is a normal renter. Since this kind of deal doesn’t happen there’s really no system so his payout is a handshake deal on sale, as of now only around 8%. As for if the property is kept, once fully paid off he would receive a yearly dividend of what was made off rent, which wouldn’t be much as we won’t charge much above operating and maintenance cost. Truthfully keeping it is the less likely option as we would like to sell so he can walk away with a decent down payment on his own place.
So if you don’t sell it, and instead rent it out to other people, he’d get a portion of the rent the future tenant pays? And I don’t supposed said future tenant will also get equity?
I’m still working on a good way to provide value to a tenant for the rent they pay for a paid off property. Once it’s paid off I only want to be charging what it takes to maintain plus a little more for unexpected problems. But again, keeping it is the less likely scenario. Down payments on their own place is the goal!
That’s super cool, I’ve wanted to do something similar like this but never have had the opportunity.
The Nature of Capitalism… https://youtu.be/WseyrYuD8ao
Rich people who lived simply, “not underdeveloped, over exploited.”
The bananas were a nice touch. It’s sickening how politicians are using terms like “banana republic” divorcing them from actual meaning. I almost said, “and kangaroo court,” but caught myself, before typing “court,” since for a lot of North Americans struggling for any justice get that, for instance the college protesters.
They call countries banana republics, from what could be described as oil and banking republics with just a small modification or two, without a hint of irony.
You know it!
ALAB.
No they aren’t all bad. I’ve had good ones. They were there for us at the drop of a hat to fix things, they didn’t over charge. We paid rent on time and they gave us good references for the next places we would move to. My friend currently rents a 1 bedroom apartment for 800$ in a six unit building. They asked the landlord why they don’t charge more when they could easily ask 1500$ plus. He said he knows he could but he also is aware that’s not in the budget for a lot of Canadians right now. So he only asks for what he needs to cover his own costs. Would you say that landlord is bad? My friend can’t afford the upkeep of unexpected home maintenance and utilities on her current budget.
Feel free to go buy your own house then buddy
Get fucked friend
Great theory until you get removed from your home trying to make a point because the family of 3 with nowhere else to go doesn’t have the luxury of caring about things like this thanks to the broke ass system we all reside in.
Great theory until you get removed from your home trying to make a point
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_strike
When you get the whole building involve, it can be surprisingly effective.
the family of 3 with nowhere else to go doesn’t have the luxury of caring about things like this
You don’t think a family of 3 cares when their rents double over five years while their wages barely budge?
No, I didn’t say that. I said a family of 3 is going to take your house if they can afford it and you’re too busy making a point to pay rent.
This is true. So not sure what point any of what you said serves, though you’re not wrong.
Also, my grandma lived inna building where 90% of the tenants did this, came together and made their demands and refused to pay rent all together.
They were all removed systematically.
Not saying it never works, but it’s alot for the average working class American to risk.
a family of 3 is going to take your house if they can afford it
Why do you think anyone can afford these homes?
I’m not arguing with you clearly you’re just missing the point purposely or trying to strawman and move goalposts.
Obviously people can afford these homes or 100% of America’s middle class would be homeless.
you’re just missing the point purposely or trying to strawman and move goalposts
Reads like a Ben Shapiro rant.
Obviously people can afford these homes
Why would states need to implement a vacancy tax on speculative properties if people could afford them?
Seems to be an increasingly popular strategy for reducing homelessness. San Francisco could get 90% of its homeless off the streets with the country’s fiercest housing speculation tax, but landlords are already fighting it tooth and nail
So the point you kept missing I’ll throw you a bone man.
Someone can afford the home you’re in. This “strategy” is only effective if everyone’s on board. Otherwise a new family will be in there on the heels of your feet.
Someone can afford the home you’re in.
I’ve got half a dozen units on my block that are selling above the clearing price. They’ve been vacant for years. This is speculative real estate. The only people who can afford it are the developers and investors looking to accumulate housing stock on the gamble that someone will be able to pay the markup at some point in the future.
It is virtually impossible to work individually against landlords. Instead, form or join a tensnts’ union. And maybe some orgs opposed to landlordism.
They’re describing a job in that scenario too lol.
Yes, people lose their shit once they stop doing their job lol. Landlords in their version are effectively building mechanics and paper pushers keeping their property above board so people can live in it. Most of them I knew all had jobs outside of it too because it doesn’t pay the bills lol.
Yes, it would be phenomenal if they dropped all their extra money into the stock market like your average person but they diversified or put it into equity instead since they didn’t trust stock or had houses willed to them.
I get when people talk about slumlords, or giant corpos. But I’ve had to quote it before that the lionshare of them are people like I mentioned above with corpos buying out more and more in recent years because they’re just as poor as everyone else.
Meanwhile even the most liberal people on here get baited thinking they’re scum. Meanwhile billionaires are still laughing at the poors fighting each other thinking one job is better than other or villifying entire professions still.
Unionize. Reform land and property ownership. Vote in as many Progressive > Democrats to help make that happen. Vote yes on school ballot measures even if you get taxes. Run for government yourself if you loathe who represents you. Grassroot campaigns are hard as hell with a huge uphill battle, but poor people aren’t excluded from government.
Yeah, they’re not going to suddenly gain $50k+ cash for a down-payment to replace their home. Yes, a mortgage should be cheaper than rent but a renter probably can’t save an extra 3 year’s worth of rent to put it down.
Stop paying rent to see who loses their home. It’s an ugly system.
Who forecloses on the tenant? The landlord
Who forecloses on the landlord? The bank
Who actually performs the eviction? The sheriff’s office
Who therefore truly controls the property?
Is it Elmo?
Yes.
Corporate landlords who pick up the property at collapsed values and maximize rent to suppress the ability for these folks to buy property again?
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A lot of people on the comments seem to have had landlords who “fixed things”
I used to rent, and then decided to buy my own home right before it became impossible to do so for most people. I wouldn’t be able to afford to buy a house nowadays. I lucked out.
Renting was better in many ways because Jesus Christ there’s so much shit I have to pay to fix. 5000$ furnace in the middle of -25 weather. AC 3500$ died in summer. roof leak repair 1500$… , rotting deck 5000$ DIY. Foundation repair, crawlspace encapsulation, toilet replacement+flooring (35 year old terlet was leaking for years and had rotted the boards underneath). Fridge broke and had to buy our own to replace it, same thing happened to the stove. Back when I rented I would call the landlord and they’d replace it at no cost to me. It’s a good thing we have credit to put this shit on, because without it we would be fucked. We used a mini fridge for 6 months because we had to save for a full size fridge when ours broke.
House maintenance is a killer. I can’t just call my landlord up and tell them it needs to be done. Or if I had a shitty landlord who doesn’t want to fix shit, like I’ve had in the past, I can’t NOT care, move out eventually and it’s not my issue once I’m gone. It’ll come back to bite you when it’s a house you have invested in and own. Owning houses is expensive. Renting has a lot of perks and one of them is you aren’t required to keep up the house. All that falls on the person you are renting from.
Now the frigging cost that some landlords are charging is criminal and a whole other story.
So you prefer having a millionaire landlord, noted…
I prefer no landlords at all
Do you mean that housing should be provided by the government? By the tax payers? And what about maintenance? Is that also provided by the taxpayers? So they would pay people to come fix up the house you live in for free? I guess I’m just not quite sure how you think it all works.
We prefer the term housing provider.
But if you need a place to rent… Quid pro quo.
No, they need a place to live, and it just so happens that the landlords have collectively bought up most of the available housing. It’s like saying that a ticket scalper is providing value.
You could literally change my sentence from “they need a place to rent” to “they need a place to live”, same thing. You don’t need a place to rent if you don’t need a place to live :P.
My point is that the landlord is not providing some integral service, but inserting themselves as a middle man in the process to collect money like a ticket scalper.
But could the renter afford the house?
Given how high rent is getting combined with price deflation from the lack of scalping in this hypothetical, they might realistically be able to swing a mortgage, yeah.
Rocko is the landlord
…So you’re not living in the house in which you pay rent? You’re paying for the landlord to live there?? Then where do you stay??? What is this logic??? It doesn’t make sense.
Please tell me this is /s
