Footage of two New York City police officers opening fire at a subway station as they confronted a man holding a knife shows they shot at him as he was standing still, his arms by his side and his back to a train.

In the days since Sunday’s shooting, police officials have repeatedly emphasized that the officers fired after Derell Mickles “charged” at one of them, and when their attempts to deescalate the situation and use Tasers had failed — leaving them with little choice but to resort to deadly force to protect themselves and passengers.

The footage, uploaded to the NYPD’s YouTube page Friday, offers a different view of the shooting that not only wounded Mickles but also a bystander, who was hit in the head with a stray bullet. Gregory Delpeche, 49, was sent to the hospital in critical condition, where doctors had to open up his skull to reduce brain swelling, according to his family.

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    2 months ago

    Just in case anyone lives under a rock, this is another great example of how the cops are not there to protect you. They will hurt you, intentionally or accidentally, and they will never apologize or try to make amends for what they’ve done. They will always blame somebody else.

    And if you don’t believe me, ask yourself this. When people on the New York subway see someone with a knife next week or next month, will they be happy if the police arrive? Or, will they run away, because the police are there. I think we all know the answer to that question.

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      Well it’s obviously the bystander’s fault for being in the way of stray bullets.

      I think we can all sleep soundly knowing a man was almost murdered over less than three bucks.

      /s #acab etc

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    2 months ago

    It’s not even funny anymore how utterly incompetent (and bigoted) the police force in America is.

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    A cop would rather shoot and kill a suspect and bystanders than suffer even the slightest of injury. I don’t blame the cops for being scared of a potential knife and blasting the guy without a care for anything but your own skin. But don’t do that and call yourself a hero.

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        Context is important.

        A knife is “potentially deadly” sitting in a knife block if there are people around because someone could grab it out of the knife block and start stabbing.

        This guy was not posing a threat.

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          I’m not so sure in this situation that I wouldn’t call him a threat. He shrugged off a taser or two?(unsure if they hit their taser darts or whatever) sprinted at an officer with a knife in his hand yelling shoot me if I heard correctly. But shooting at him 9 times is absurd. They shoulda just kept dancing around with him tbh and never drawn their guns only tasers. Or shit find a broom and just use reach he didn’t seem to want to hurt anyone but maybe suicide by cop from the whole sprinting at the cop saying shoot me. Again if I heard correctly.

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              At which moment in time are you referring? The only time I consider him a threat was when he sprinted at the officer. Edit: I wasn’t clear initially my apologies.

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        Talk to anyone that runs a gun range, and they’ll tell you that cops have the worst aim. They have a tendency to point in the general direction of their target, then pull the trigger until it goes click.

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          The smart ones aren’t on the streets. I imagine detectives probs have decent aim but I know nothing but conjecture and assumptions 😆

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            I worked alongside law enforcement for awhile and this was my experience as well. The run of the mill patrolman isn’t very bright and will spend a long time sitting in a car. The smarter ones rise through the ranks pretty quickly, taking advantage of the huge growth potential in LE.

            Most departments offer huge incentives and bonuses to continue your education and advance. It’s very military in its structure and by the time you’re working homicide or major cases pretty much everyone has a Masters degree or comparable specialized training. They’re still bastards but they’re definitely not stupid.

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    “We had to shoot. We left our hand grenades and bazooka at home by mistake. HQ wouldn’t authorize the nuclear strike unless he had a gun.”

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    So have they actually shown that he had a knife yet or not?

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      From what I’ve gathered, they stated an unidentified man left the crime scene with the knife. They showed a still from “body cam footage” of a hand holding a knife, but someone said the clothes didn’t match up

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        So yes, I guess. I’d seen reporting saying he did, then he didn’t, then he did but he didn’t take it out, then someone did have a knife but not him, then he did have a knife but dropped it and someone took it.

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    • The guy was spotted with the knife and walked on a train with no more than two officers engage him.
    • They used the taser and it failed.
    • He walks out and they immediately chase and pull guns.
    • He stops and is standing 5-7 ft away with cops on both sides.
    • At least two officers stand off with him.

    For all the money they spent, why was it only two officers? I thought it would fix everything? Instead another shooting with innocent people being affected.

    https://www.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/773-22/mayor-adams-governor-hochul-major-actions-keep-subways-safe-address-transit

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    I’m here for the goalpost moving. Last thread regarding this incident was a bunch of “cops are lying”, “there is no knife”, and “yeah that’s a picture of a knife but we don’t know it’s real”.