“Passkeys,” the secure authentication mechanism built to replace passwords, are getting more portable and easier for organizations to implement thanks to new initiatives the FIDO Alliance announced on Monday.

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    1 day ago

    Literally just use a password manager and 2/MFA. It’s not a problem. We have a solution.

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      Actually, it is still a problem, because passwords are a shared secret between you and the server, which means the server has that secret in some sort of form. With passkeys, the server never has the secret.

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        The shared secret with my Vaultwarden server? Add mfa and someone needs to explain to me how passkeys do anything more than saving one single solitary click.

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          When a website gets hacked they only find public keys, which are useless without the private keys.

          Private keys stored on a password manager are still more secure, as those services are (hopefully!) designed with security in mind from the beginning.

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            24 minutes ago

            If a website with old-school passwords gets hacked, the hacker only gets salted hashes of passwords - this does not seem to be much worse?

            (Websites that store plaintext passwords surely won’t implement passkeys either…)

        • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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          Pass keys are for websites such as Google, Facebook, TikTok, etc. And then they go into what is currently your password manager or if you don’t have one, it goes into your device. You still have to prove to that password manager that you are, who you say you are, either by a master password of some sort or biometrics.

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        Best password manager is offline password manager.

        KeepassXC makes a file with the passwords that is encrypted, sharing this file with a server is more secure than letting the server manage your passwords

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          17 hours ago

          This is not at all relevant to the comment you’re responding to. Your choice of password manager doesn’t change that whatever system you’re authenticating against still needs to have at least a hash of your password. That’s what passkeys are improving on here

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          I agree, and that’s my method as well. Although I do not ever share the file with a server either. I only transfer it from device to device with flash drives or syncthing.

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            How do you handle merging between devices? Do you manually transfer/sync every time you add a new password?

            Not trying to sell you on putting it in cloud storage or anything, but one really nice benefit to doing so is automatic merging through clients like Keepass2Android. If I add a new site to my phone and it doesn’t already have the latest copy of my vault, it’ll fetch and merge that first.

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      21 hours ago

      I mean, it is. Aside from an additional associated cost, it’s still much less convenient.