• alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Trump would be impeached if he tried. You think Raytheon and Boeing can’t buy enough congressmen to impeach him?

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      He’s been fucking impeached twice already.

      How do you people have such short fucking memories?

      Nothing sticks to this dirtbag. That’s how he got that stupid nickname.

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        2 months ago

        Successfully removed from office, not the ceremonial bullshit the dems do for the aesthetic.

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          Bruh dems voted for it. They did what they could with the votes they had at the time. REPUBLICANS stone walled it because it’s party over country for them. They probably hoped that almost getting lynched by an angry fucking mob the sitting president refused to call in the National Guard on would get at least enough to flip to convict, but nope, republicans will apparently literally die before they vote for country over party.

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            The country is 3 corporations in a trenchcoat. If Trump threatened the corporations those same republicans campaigns need to get elected, those republicans would have to either lose their seats or get rid of Trump.

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          Republicans have at least 53 senators. He won’t be removed, just like the last two times.

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            How many of those senators depend on MIC lobbying to keep their seats?

            There’s lines a president can’t cross, threatening the jobs 50+ senators is one of them.

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              Their role is entirely dependent on maintaining the cult of personality and calling for the blood of those who are accused of dysloyalty.

              STOP IMAGINING THESE PEOPLE HAVE ANY KIND OF MORALS OR LIMITS TO WHAT THEY WILL DO. HOW HAVE YOU NOT GOT THIS YET?

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                Their role is entirely dependent on maintaining the cult of personality and calling for the blood of those who are accused of dysloyalty.

                You’re not looking at this from a systemic perspective.

                Their role is winning their own elections. Everything else must be secondary, since if it wasn’t they’d be replaced by someone else who does.

                I’m talking about the people who run the machinery of the evil empire that turns the suffering and continued immiseration of billions into profits for the shareholders of the most destructive companies, I’m not under any impression that these people have morals I can recognize.

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              Their role is entirely dependent on maintaining the cult of personality and calling for the blood of those who are accused of dysloyalty.

              STOP IMAGINING THESE PEOPLE HAVE ANY KIND OF MORALS OR LIMITS TO WHAT THEY WILL DO. HOW HAVE YOU NOT GOT THIS YET?

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                Their role is entirely dependant on feeding the cash machine, of which the military industrial complex is a huge part. The cult of personality is just a convenient means to an end. If it’s no longer convenient it’ll disappear.

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      Trump would be impeached

      Let’s assume that happens. What would that do, exactly? Can you think of any precedent where something like that has happened before? What was the net effect?

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        Can you think of any precedent where something like that has happened before?

        In the US? The closest you’d get is JFK, if you think Allen Dulles was behind the assassination, and not just the coverup.

        Outside the US? Constitutional coups after a country goes against US interests happen so frequently that it’s not even noteworthy.

        What would that do, exactly?

        Replace Trump with JD Vance, who I’m sure will be more amenable to the interests of the capitalist class.

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          Really? The closest thing in the US -- at all -- is from the 60s? Why do you suppose that is?

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            The US party system is extremely effective at keeping threats to capital out of power.

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        A lot less though. Keep in mind, Ukraine help is also a big plus in all the financial books, even though it looks like they just “get the money”…

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      Are we still pretending that impeachment in the US is any kind of meaningful threat to a president?

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        If you understand it as a trial where a president who has done something wrong is held accountable according to the law, then no that’s idealist nonsense.

        If you understand it as a mechanism that allows 50+ senators to replace the president with the VP if they want to, yes.

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      Um, you know those companies can sell weapons and craft to other countries right? Trump will still be happy for Europeans to buy weapons.