BEIRUT (AP) — The Syrian government appeared to have fallen early Sunday in a stunning end to the 50-year rule of the Assad family after a lightning rebel offensive.

The head of a Syrian opposition war monitor said President Bashar Assad had left the country for an undisclosed location, fleeing ahead of insurgents who said they had entered Damascus after a remarkably swift advance across the country.

Syrian Prime Minister Mohammed Ghazi Jalali said the government was ready to “extend its hand” to the opposition and hand over its functions to a transitional government.

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    Not that Assad isn’t a massive cunt, but I do wonder what might happen next.

    For reference here is a news article about a certain group taking Afghanistan in 1996, and the tone about today’s news seems oddly familiar.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/27/newsid_2539000/2539973.stm

    The PM may call for free elections all he wants, but a group that has spent the last decade shedding blood for this moment my not see things quite the same way.

    Still, the Syrian government and Hezbollah were in cahoots, so I can think of at least one Syrian neighbour that will be celebrating this. It’s one less route for weapons to end up in the West Bank.

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        I mean Golan Heights is mentioned in the news all the time, and I’ve never seen any of them talk about it as anything other than Israeli territory, despite it being Syria.

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      Not that Assad isn’t a massive cunt, but I do wonder what might happen next.

      Given the track record of violent revolutions throughout history, nothing good. Still, seeing how low the “better than Assad” bar is it might be a slight improvement.

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        To think the US haven’t had some hand in toppling a regional Russian ally would be naive.

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      Another route would be an independent source of water and power and a trade route and free association and free movement about their own country. But sure, choose violence to end violence, because that works.

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        Seeing some peace in the region would be nice, but I can see Kurdish forces and Turkish backed rebels in the mix, and those guys don’t tend to get along.

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    Not sure if I would have preferred al-Assad having to live out the rest of his life in exile and constantly look over his own shoulder… Or seeing him imprisoned in Syria and/or publicly hanged for his crimes against humanity. But I guess with him having fled via plane, we’ll all have to accept the former.

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    Assad was a fucker who committed crimes against humanity and deserved to die. Unfortunately I don’t have high hopes for whatever group of islamist fascists ends up arresting control.

    (Time to find out if this is one of those subs that removes any comment even slightly critical of islam as “islamophobia”…)

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      Yah know, you didn’t have to add that last caveat, most people already agreed with you

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        What do you mean? Why do you think I give a damn whether “most people” agree with what I’m saying or not?

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          (time to find out blah blah blah who gives a fuck) shows you do give a damn about whether “most people” agree with what you are saying or not.

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            Feel free to disagree all you want with my educated opinion that Mohammad was a child rapist and a violent warmonger with delusions of grandeur.

            Most people are smart enough to know that there is a difference between disagreement and censors removing posts that they simply don’t like.

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    Can someone ELI5 what happened? I knew about the civil war but it had been effectively at a stalemate for a couple of years. How did the rebels suddenly surge like they did?

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      From what I know, this is the combination of three things

      1. Opposition rebel groups decided not to fight each other
      2. Assad had it’s russian support cut out
      3. Blitz offensive lead by the opposition rebel groups, some of which had Turkish support lead to mayhem in Assad ranks
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      Good luck. It was jihadists that deposed Assad, I’m sure they’ll just give up their newly acquired country. And I’m sure the CIA will stand idly by while that happens. Unfortunately Syria is fucked. Caliphate incoming.

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        The vast majority of Muslims are members of the Sunni branch, like 90%. Its differentiating factor is not being more radical, but mostly about the succession of Muhammad, especially compared to the Shia branch.

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        Sunni is just a branch, there are two main branches Sunni and shia, neither are particularly more radical than the other. Kind of like Catholic and protestant christians

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            FYI I am Muslim

            1. Sunni and shia together make up ~99% of all Muslims

            2. No branch of Islam is inherently more extreme than the other, it varies from person to person or group to group.

            3. Alawites are (arguably) not muslim

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      They seem to be backed by Turkey, which isn’t a western country afak?

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        Turkey is ruled by a two-face jackass who tries to play both sides. He’s mainly interested in slaughtering the Kurds and carving out a piece of Syria for himself. So yeah, wrong horse for the people of Syria who will have to endure an ultraconservative theocracy, but the west will celebrate this because this benefits israel. Syria had been a thorn in israel’s side.

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          Oh sorry, I just assumed you meant that the west backed these rebels, which they don’t. You should have been clearer if that wasn’t the case.

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            You assumed correctly. And they have. The West, particularly the United States, the United Kingdom, France, and other European countries, has supported various rebel groups in Syria during the Syrian Civil War, which began in 2011. Initially, the support was aimed at opposing the regime of President Bashar al-Assad. The U.S. and its allies provided military training, weapons, and funding to moderate rebel groups, such as the Free Syrian Army (FSA). The Kurds in the north of Syria have been openly backed by the US for years. Admittedly it’s not necessarily the FSA that have become victorious but the point still stands…the West has backed the wrong horse. And in the months to come this they will privately lament the regime’s demise.

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              I don’t understand, do you mean that the west should have backed this terrorist group to come out on top or what?

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                I fear you grossly misinterpreted my comment but for clarity: the West should have backed Assad as the alternative will be worse, a lot worse.

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                  Thanks for the clarification, I assumed you meant that the West had backed HTS, but I understand what you meant now. :)