• Rakonat@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      The only individual liberties they are concerned with are their own, not those individual liberties of another person or people.

      And the liberties they most want are the ability to take away those of the people they wish to exploit.

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      17 days ago

      The key point is what liberties do they mean. And usually they mean the liberty to have sex with minor and/or effectively owning people.

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        15 days ago

        I’m hardcore socialist, but I have some libertarian friends that just want to smoke weed, they have more in common with anarchists than Republicans.

        I deeply hope that’s not a core tenant of libertarianism, how abhorrent.

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          15 days ago

          It’s not usually, the most extreme forms of libertarianism is the complete remove of government control over individual people, which includes a lack of age of consent laws and attracts a certain crowd.

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          15 days ago

          Yeah in my experience there are two types of libertarian, some lean anarchist but are uncomfortable with socialism, others lean fascist but are uncomfortable with fascism. Then there are those who are edgy liberals who are uncomfortable with how necessary regulation is but I haven’t seen many of them in a while

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      15 days ago

      Sure, the same way conservatives value small government and fiscal responsibility.

      There’s definitely those who genuinely believe in those ideals, but they’re few and far between.

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    15 days ago

    I’m only antistatist until the current state is destroyed.

    Many flags adorn the war horse.

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        17 days ago

        I guess the libertarian label got coopted in US just as the democrat one. That’s not unexpected, but sad

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          15 days ago

          Yeah, it’s like how as an American i have to call myself an anti-monarchist because republican means not quite the opposite here

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            15 days ago

            Oof. Yeah, from the outside perspective it just looks like all the options you guys have is just different labels slapped on top of conservatism

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        15 days ago

        Of all the age of consent arguments libertarians make this is by far the weakest. Age of consent is literally up to a vote and can be changed. Thats how Arizona got it’s Romeo and Juliett law in the first place.

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          Weak, sure. It’s also a public argument made by an official Libertarian Party politician. Most of the stronger ones come from more anonymous libertarians. If that’s what they’re saying in public, etc. etc.