Why moderate?
The working class is under no obligation to mourn the deaths of those who are actively trying to kill them for profit.
There’s a difference between not mourning a piece of shit and asking for the murder of his peers. The hypocrisy of oligarch-run media (social and traditional) is that they stop having an issue with murder if there’s an Excel spreadsheet between the instigator and the victim.
Because this instance (and all other instances) physically reside in countries with content laws. If we don’t follow those laws, we can be shut down, and the admin/owners that reside in those countries could face legal consequences.
Yeah, it’s a pity that the laws appear to be protecting those the best, who are responsible for the most suffering - after all those have the power to get those laws written.
But that’s the thing: there’s a difference between ‘legal’ and ‘legitimate/true’ behaviour.
While I understand that lemmy instances (et al) have to adhere to legal behaviour, I hope that people adhere to legitimate/true behaviour.Most people don’t just randomly stumble into legitimate/true behavior. We’re apes, we see something and then do. If it all gets moderated away, the chance for legitimate/true behavior drops dramatically.
I very much hope that action is the outcome of thorough consideration, although oftentimes I have doubts about that.
And still I think we have more up our sleeves than ‘monkey see, monkey do’ schemes.Don’t forget that capitalism is what you get when you don’t regulate behavior.
Humans are shitty animals.
They meant “sensor”.
You meant “censor”
You meant “silencer”.
Pew Pew.
censorship, not moderation. and of course free speech only applies to enabling racism and such
I mean free speech actually only applies to government, not social media.
And it doesn’t always apply to governments. The Lemmy.world server is in The Netherlands. It’s illegal in The Netherlands to threaten violence. So posts threatening violence are deleted so that Lemmy.world can stick around.
This makes some people who feel like they should be allowed to say whatever they want, wherever they want angry at us moderators, but we like Lemmy.world and they don’t have to be here if they don’t want to. Unfortunately, some people have a massive sense of entitlement, as the ban evader in World News who told me that he shall not be censored found out the hard way this morning.
Sorry, your right to threaten to kill someone is less important to me than Lemmy.world sticking around. There are other Lemmy servers that might allow it, but this one doesn’t for legal reasons.
You censor via moderation though right?
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I agree with you, but I am very worried that any possible copycats might be less discerning. Especially if CEOs start hiring security forces and there are either gun battles or bombings where people get caught in the crossfire.
Not every person with the same agenda as Luigi Mangione’s will be as careful to only hit their target.
I see having a reasonable take on this is also giving you downvotes. I think the pro Luigi group has a problematic subgroup that wants to murder anyone.
If it were up to me, I’d start figuring out a way to separate that subgroup out. Otherwise you’re going to end up with someone randomly murdering and painting the whole thing as just murderers with no ideological point. That will kill whatever good work this is done.
ere are either gun battles or bombings where people get caught in the crossfire.
On the upside, president has been set, even perceived attempts might sway for better decisions.
I do not think innocent people being killed because of their proximity to a CEO has an upside.
I do not think innocent people being killed
I’m not saying anyone needs to be truly violent. Even perceived attempts would have momentum. Milkshakes might be enough now that they know it can escalate.
It’s a very important lesson for CEOs…heck, for everybody to learn.
It’s really important to remember in this day and age to not cause widespread suffering to a large number of everyday people who are just going about their normal daily lives.
Someone needs to tell the CEOs.
It’s very interesting that pro-Luigi posts are immediately and universally censored while pro-Jan. 6th posts are given a lot more leeway. Both were attacks on powerful members of the ruling class, but only one group of sympathizers is being completely shut down. It’s tempting to think that it’s because tech billionaires have a right-wing bias, but I actually think it’s worse than that. I think it’s because the January 6th riots represented a partisan divide, while Luigi’s (alleged) actions have received bipartisan sympathy. Apparently, violence and terrorism are acceptable unless they lead to class solidarity.
You mean it’s a challenge to censor and suppress popular sentiment? Maybe stop fucking trying
Can you even fucking imagine if this was about China? The liberal Reddit Lemmitors would be frothing at the mouth about The Great Evil. Meanwhile it’s just another boring article in the freest greatest nation in the world.
Let’s keep posting about Brian Thompson, and every other billionaire, being a mass murderer. That’s all the billionaire class is. Criminals, grifters, less than human murderers protected by the ruling class. US “democracy” working as intended.
Man, I wonder why
its only challenging to moderate because corporate media is struggling to silence the majority without making it look like they are silencing the majority and provoking outrage towards them and their CEOs.
Apparently there was a subreddit too but daddy corporate didn’t like that.
I am okay with it being there.
The behaviors of some CEOs are making it easy. Oops! Did I victim-blame?
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Only thing that needs moderation is the parasites paycheques…