cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24657192

Summary

In a virtual speech at the World Economic Forum, Trump suggested Canada could become a U.S. state to avoid his proposed tariffs on imports.

The remark elicited gasps from the audience.

Trump claimed the U.S. does not need Canadian lumber, energy, or vehicles, vastly overstating the trade deficit between the two nations.

He reiterated his intention to impose tariffs, potentially as high as 25%, on imports from Canada and Mexico starting February 1.

Economists warn such tariffs would raise prices for U.S. consumers.

  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    <sigh> Four more years of this shit. But oh well, it’s worth it if it spared a few people of superior moral integrity from compromising their principles to vote for Harris when she didn’t measure up to their requirements and the Democrats didn’t run a good enough campaign and besides it was kind of cold that day and it would have meant putting on pants.

    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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      Why are you okay with your fellow Americans being unrepresented in the voting booth?

      Are you working to replace First past the post voting in your state? People should be free to vote for those they deem best, while still counting their vote against those they don’t want in office.

      We don’t need to wait for a miracle from congress. How we vote us controlled at the state level. Alaska has already done away with FPTP voting. Alaskan Republicans were so upset that Ranked Choice voting kept Sarah Palin out of office they offered up a referendum to go back to FPTP voting. The people of Alaska voted to keep it

      Why do you want to use the same voting system republicans prefer? Do you support democracy? Or do you get off on telling people how to vote?

      Videos on alternative voting systems

      First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

      Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

      STAR voting

      Alternative vote

      Ranked Choice voting

      Range Voting

      Single Transferable Vote

      Mixed Member Proportional representation

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        Feel free to express (and explain) your opinion that some people are unrepresented, but why are you okay with pretending that’s my opinion and asking me to defend it? Millions of people who voted for Biden in 2020 refused to vote at all in 2024 because the Democratic Party hadn’t given them a candidate they liked. More than enough to defeat Trump, but that wasn’t important enough for them to step off their moral high ground, and now here we are.

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    Why people keep listening to what that being says? Just respond to his actions, anthing else is useless…

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      I somewhat agree with your point but after years of him saying he would do fucked up shit and then him doing a lot of it, it helps to be prepared for his intentions as they manifest into actions in many cases.

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        My point goes mostly to international leaders or representative people that over-react to his words and then the media look to amplify it by doing it a “new”: part of his strategy is this shit bombing upon saturation, so it buffers a space of allowance of shit actions in the public opinion that otherwise would have suffered of even more rejection if done without this probing, confusing and dragging resources in the meantime to attend this… which in the end will not matter how are they answered, prevented or reacted, he will push anyway in that direction, so I would give zero weight to all that diarrhea, shit will come willing it or not since he has the power to do it, accepting any kind of conversation with someone like that is playing a rigged game and lose terrain… why accept his ability to an exchange of opinion in the first place? why respond/listen to him? He behaves like the strongest bully, the corresponding treatment is required… join on isolating him, he will not make it easy though. This is my opinion…

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    10 hours ago

    There is no actual fentanyl or immigration basis for tariffs on Canada. Just submit to less representation than California, and help absorb large US debt with little in return for it.

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    12 hours ago

    Us citizens pay tariff this doesn’t hurt Canadians. They should call bluff and say do 30%.

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      1 hour ago

      Canada will absorb most of the extra cost if we want to sell product to the US.

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      4 hours ago

      It potentially reduces exports from Canada to the US, hurting our economy. Nobody wins

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      4 hours ago

      We have a lot of resources. Ya our shit will get more expensive, but he’s gonna fuck his own country doing this. Canada will survive.

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        6 hours ago

        Well according to wiki you are right. I was on ever taught tax on imports in school. Taxing exports only works of there is one possible vendor and if there is not then the competition will just has to charge slightly less while expanding production.

        Imagine if China , EU, and or japan be like here is 10% discount. Or better yet Trade alliance among countries who Trump charges on exports would be hillarious.

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    16 hours ago

    Trump seems to have the goal of destroying the US from all I can tell. Our economy and power are so dependent on our connections to the rest of the world and he is burning them all down. The US dollar gets replaced as the fiat currency we are wholly fucked and this dumb shit is how that happens.

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      12 hours ago

      And the last gasp of our conservatives as the final pillar of the whitehouse collapses into a flaming wreck due to Trumps ridiculous toddler-like mismanagement of everything will be to blame it all on the Democrats.

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      That’s the point, I think, as well. I could see Putin using the useful idiot to destroy the primary rival to its superiority. The US is incredibly difficult to invade. The intelligence apparatus is too ingrained in all our communication to avoid detection. If you can’t get the rot to start from the outside, go for the inside.

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      16 hours ago

      Somehow, even with conservatives owning all the branches of government, it will be the Dem’s fault.

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        And they’ll even say sorry for it because they consider it “impolite” and “not done” to talk back to the sitting government or some shit.

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        If America is forced to accept austerity measures over our massive debt when the dollar is no longer fiat, regular people will be the ones who suffer sadly.

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    Trump is going to speedrun all our vassals allies into joining BRICS, and I’m here for it.

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    15 hours ago

    American anschluss of Canada to expand their lebensraum, because they feel they deserve it.

    Musk does not hide how he feels about it, we wouldn’t either.

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    rip you guys are gonna get couped
    imperialism is manifesting itself in the imperial core

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      rip you guys are gonna get couped

      Seems to me we got couped. It was just mostly domestically bloodless. So far.

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      Don’t act like Canada hasn’t been seeing it’s own share of right wing extremists making their way into government.

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        Yeah no need for a coup really. Without a revolution Canada is gonna be part of this new axis on its own.

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      Do you really think it’s likely this will happen? I think hell just start throwing a tantrum and maybe symbolically apply some tariffs.

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        Yes it is likely. Canada can’t afford to resist. Canada is highly dependent on trade with the US.

        Just because I think it is likely doesn’t mean that I think it’s right. This is clearly wrong.

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    Do you think he wanted to do this last time but ousted everyone who told him that’s fucking psychotically stupid?