• 9point6@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    We really need someone other than Qualcomm & Apple to come up with lossless Bluetooth audio codecs.

    TBF the whole Bluetooth audio situation is a complete mess

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        13 days ago

        That’s what happens when you have a 25 year old protocol and try to maintain backwards compatibility through all of the versions.

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          The world of audio would be more of a mess if Bluetooth was developed scrapped and replaced according to what seems to be your recommendations. I’m glad they did it the way they did.

          It’s not time for change. Just alternatives for snobs.

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        Can we name a more poorly implemented protocol? Probably. One used as much as Bluetooth? Probably not.

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        13 days ago

        Comes from being a compromise “standard”. The name says it all, being named after a king that brought multiple tribes together.

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        11 days ago

        On Windows, Alternative ADP2 driver provides LDAC support. It’s a few bucks, but also the only option I know of.

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      13 days ago

      Well bluetooth doesn’t carry enough bitrate to accomplish this. Besides. Apple won’t and doesn’t need to because their AAC encoder is superior. There is no other bluetooth codec that comes even close. Every codec that claims to be the best one yet is more marketing than anything.

      Vendors reframed the narrative for SBC to be dog shit so they can push their own as cutting edge new tech. In reality SBC isn’t that bad. The vendor codecs aren’t that good. And Apple has some kind of secret sauce in their AAC encoder that results in really good quality reproduction of audio.

      As far as I’ve seen most of the gimmicky codecs are spins of existing old technology. AAC itself is old too but at least one vendor Apple has focused on making their implementation good. We don’t need another standard+1. We just need a common standard done well. If only Apple would open theirs.

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        13 days ago

        BT 5 has max bandwidth of 2Mbps, which would in theory be enough for “CD quality”, i.e 44.1khz/16 bit raw uncompressed audio, as that’s around 1.4Mbps. In real life conditions it isn’t. AFAIK aptX lossless gets close by doing some compression.

        But if you go full audiophile levels and start demanding lossless 192khz 24 bit audio, that’s 10Mbps and not even remotely possible over BT no matter what you’d try.