I absolutely agree that propaganda and misleading information in general has a significant impact and most people don’t have the neccessary literacy skills to navigate conteporary information environments. And to be fair - they’re not easy to navigate. However, I do not agree that “they [people] are not to blame” in that ultimately adults must take responsibility (and blame) for their own actions and words, even if they are victims of disinformation or other types of misleading content. Because to argue the opposite would basically take away any responsibility from wrongdoing (intentional or otherwise) and would also mean that justice systems based on rule of law are meaningless and unnessary. Which is obviously not true.

We can’t have a stable system of governance where nobody can be blamed because everyone is some manner of stupid, ignorant, misled, uneducated about something, etc. Such a system simply wouldn’t be able to work in practice for the reasons I mention above.

Mind you, this doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t study or aknowledge the power that conditioning and misleading information have on collective political perceptions, and try to counter that as far as possible. But that is very different from saying “they are not to blame” and absolving people of their decisions and actions. It is a catch-22 but that is what the human condition ultimately is.

Your logic completely nullifies human capacity for agency and thus makes no sense whatsoever. Conditioning is important but it does not negate responsibility. Not yet anyway…

Thank you, I will take this into consideration. It sure is tempting to use LLMs but I will always trust experts in the field over LLMs.

The limitations didn’t target a nationality, they targetted sanctioned entities. And you know this because it has been made clear throughout this thread, including in numerous replies to your own comments. So you are demonstrably and obviously disingenious, not engaging in good faith or have yourself been misled. This behavior logically leads people to the conclusion that you are either being deliberately manipulative or you are confused and have been deliberately manipulated. Sadly, the end result is the same in both cases and regardless of your intention.

I wish you the best. We should all be a lot more dedicated to intellectual honesty.

As someone without a computer science background and who started learning Python for data science shortly before LLMs became mainstream, I gotta say it’s been pretty useful for the learning process. I don’t mean I just use it to write scripts for me but rather it can be a useful sorta of guide the way a scripted advisor mihht be in a game. Seems to me that one of the good sides of LLMs is that they can make technically dofficult fields more accessible as long as you understand its limits and know what it can and cant do._ i would never use it for any sort of subjective issue but I find it great for logical tasks. And this is not to say that’s its perfect for that either but it has increased my efficiency for certain work tasks tremendously.

I want a lot of things too, but what I want most of all is to live in a society governed by the rule of law. There are no absolute rights - limiting the freedoms of people who are complicit in crimes or enable them is how we protect the rights of everyone else. Simple as.

Yeah no, that’s not how information literacy works. An article on usnews.com proclaiming Switzerland as the best country in the world based on self-reporting is the opposite of objective. Making an international economics-based comparison takes more than a quick google search. And keep in mind some people actually live in unstable economies. So stop bashing your country for the sake of it.

Sincerely, An EU citizen who has lived in Switzerland and visited the US on numerous occasions.

Just 10 or 12 years ago or so, the US and EU had comparably sized economies. Today the EU economy is between 25% to 30% smaller than the US one. And yes, I include the UK in the EU calculations just to prove the point. The reason? Higher stability and growth on average. What might seem like small differences on a year-on-year basis add up and prove to be quite substantial in terms of decades.

So you can invest in Swedish and Swiss bonds and/or companies if you want, but chances are you’re gonna lose out compared to person investing in US-based entities.

Sincerely,

An EU citizens who is sick of hearing Americans bashing their own country based on ignorance. There’s plenty of reasons to be upset with and critical of the US. But an unstable economy is not one of them, relatively speaking. Get your facts straight.

Either a victim of disinformation or a victim of disinformation who gets some sort of material benefit for spewing more propaganda and dogma. Either way, they should be reported for their own good and that of everyone else using the platform. We need to safeguard information integrity and prevent the victims from instigating a global conflict, potentially a nuclear one. Because that is what it ultimately comes down to. Ironically, this also means saving many russians from their regime and themselves.

Right back at ya, my vatnik friend ;)

Edit: See, if you’re gonna (try to) apply logical reasoning, you have to apply it consistently and objectively. Otherwise it stops being logic and turns into dogma.

So you’re saying Russia should stop the invasion so the war ends? I agree full heartedly.