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“As of today, 28 settlements are under enemy control, the depth of penetration into the territory of the Kursk region is 12 kilometers, and the front’s width is 40 kilometers” - Kursk region acting governor told Putin. Putin interrupted him and said not to mention numbers.

    • Rayspekt@lemmy.world
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      It’s not the “special military operation”, it’s the “military challenged operation”.

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    I heard they had elections already and they voted to join Ukarine.

    Lol, this is a parody of the rushed elections in Ukraine.

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    I think they mean that 28 previouslty occupied settlements in Kursk have been de-Nazified and reincorporated into the Kyivan Rus by their rightful owners.

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    Pretty sure that video is from the 8th of August? If so, the information presented here is outdated (not that the Russians were credible in the first place). Or has there been a more recent briefing?

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    I’m a bit worried that Ukraine will avenge Bucha and the others. That would be a bad thing in many levels.

    Then again, I’m not sure how we could get reliable data about such a thing anyway: if they are forced to retreat from those areas, Russia will certainly accuse them of atrocities. Perhaps even make a few of their own and blame Ukraine.

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      I’d imagine they where all very strictly instructed to be courteous but direct and not accept Russians fucking with them but also to leave the locals alone. This will show Russians the sharp contrast with the MOD goon-squad if the Russians manage to take Kursk back.

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        And record it all. Did you see the video of the older ladies asking for a ride? Clearly the Russians in that area are aware of who is violent for the sake of being violent and who is defending their homeland against a violent intruder.

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          It’s an easy jab, but there’s probably a place for a three-part documentary why they (and other historical butchers) deteriorated to such a state.

          What matters is the difference in conditions between ukrainians under Kursk and russians in Butcha. UAF now has experience, discipline, logistics and clear goals, not to say they know they are under a constant threat of enemy’s forces and under a surveiliance from the whole world. Bucha’s troops who had no previous experience, no plan to stay there for long, were left to their own devices, without discipline, logistics and objectives, so these armed frat-boys who were indefinitely placed there started small with looting food and gas, but as it progressed, they started to feel safe and like they own the place, and as you can read in many accounts about occupation, they quickly normalized violence and dehumanized local population not only for the sadists in them who ignited the fire, but for everyone in here. Alcohol, drugs, paranoia, boredom and a lack of any responsibility for the power given to them by weapons created the pests who loot, rape and murder at a whim, like the worst hordes we can read about. And I can’t see how a tight operation with a precalculated strategy can turn into that nightmare. As a lowest common denominator for those who believe these troops are equal: don’t worry, ukrainians just don’t have time to degrade like this even in theory, they have too much on their hands, so Bucha 2.0 is impossible.

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    Nothing good will come of this.

    At best this is a risky incursion which the Russian people will forget about in the coming weeks, that’s if the Russian propaganda machine hasn’t already spun it in their favour.

    We seem to forget that making Putin look bad is a fool’s errand when we’re talking about a country where the state controls the media and where dissenters are either locked away in a remote gulag, or punted off a third-storey window in a way to vaguely look like suicide.

    And at worst… this could lead to an escalation…

    The closest we’ve had to a decisive blow against Russia was Prigozhin’s revolt.

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    This will lead to nothing good. Russia will now play the defense card and this war will continue even further and deadlier.

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      Lmao are you even paying attention? The whole point is to keep Russia on the offensive. They took Russian land and dug in.

      Now Russia has to get them off their land or look like even more of a fucking idiot

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        Lmao are you even paying attention?

        I took a peek and as rheinmetall profits are ramping up smoke is coming out from Zaporizhzhia.

        Now Russia has to get them off their land or look like even more of a fucking idiot

        This isn’t a videogame, many people will die an horrible way and the war will just get fueled.

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          Well damn, maybe Russia should stop invading a sovereign nation and commiting genocide. That would stop the war instantly, I’m sure going back to the 2012 borders would suit Ukraine just fine.

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            Neither russia or the west seem to have any interested in ending this war as politicians and rulers are making big profits and gaining wealth and power.

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              One option is for Russia to end its invasion.

              The other is for Ukraine to cease to exist as a country as Russia continues for the 3rd 4th 5th time to continue taking land despite any existing treaty or ceasefire agreement

              One of these is a reasonable request, the other one is not.

              Russia can continue to punch itself in the face until it sees reason. We do not expect Ukraine to sacrifice itself to Putin’s non-existent mercy.

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                  Chinese arms companies and banks involved in military aid are subject sanctions. That’s why China is mainly limited to supplying dual-use equipment but even that’s being reigned in. But nothing is going to stop Russia from going through 2 or 3 shell companies to get what they need, it’ll at least cost them more.

                  But sure let’s double down and go off and completely crater US/China trade by trillions in hopes it’ll vaguely impact Russia instead of just directly supplying Ukraine the weapons/aid they need until Russia is ready to stop invading them.

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            I think not cheering up for actions that will not lead to the end of this war is the most intelligent thing to do in this case.

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              So you’re saying Russia should stop the invasion so the war ends? I agree full heartedly.

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                  Right back at ya, my vatnik friend ;)

                  Edit: See, if you’re gonna (try to) apply logical reasoning, you have to apply it consistently and objectively. Otherwise it stops being logic and turns into dogma.

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              Strengthening Ukraine’s position in any way imaginable is the only thing that has a chance to lead to an end of this war.

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                  squeeze them against russia

                  Russia is kinda doing the squeezing, sorry mate. Their actions are what’s resulting in war and misery. Letting them have their way would lead to more war and more misery for even more people.

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          Smoke from Запорізька АЕС (Запорожская АЭС) (not запорижжия or whatever) is questionable for the black smoke we’d seen is pretty weird for that kind of facility.

          What can end this war in your opinion? As it seems, if Ukraine give up, after a period of violence and filtration against locals, it won’t stop Russia from planning another SMO on Kazakhstan, Georgia, Lithuania, Moldavia or other countries state officials officially threatened. If Russia give up in this war and stop this bullshit there wouldn’t be any conflict and it’s own standards of living would slowly return to pre-Crimean levels.

          added Ukrainian naming as the first one because for some reason I thought it’s in contested russian territories, because, well, why our news scream about it that much?

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            What can end this war in your opinion?

            Not fueling it is a good way to go toward an end. Politicians and rulers are benefiting from this war, they don’t fight their wars they send others to die while they drink champagne.

            If Russia give up in this war and stop this bullshit there wouldn’t be any conflict

            The cold war never officially end

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              Yeah, okay, but that means China, Iran and NK would keep pumping Russia up with weapons to keep obliterating Ukraine. One-sided cutting of supply wouldn’t work now or in the future.

              No one officially said it even started, lol. There wasn’t a note to proclaim it from either side. Yet, you can notice it wasn’t like in the 50s when in the 90s and 00s the relationships between countries got warmer.