• Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    Its good to mock those couple hundred people anyway, but to blame them for it is scapegoating. They’re obviously kind of dumb but yeah like Joe Biden running for re-election is like probably the #1 dick that Democrats tripped over. Campaigning with abysmally unpopular Cheneys, buying ads on republican media instead of knocking on doors or spending money on dem neutral media, focusing too much on trump instead of on strengths, moving right on immigration all contributed.

    2024 was nothing less than a strategic clusterfuck.

    Dems should run primaries even when they’re running for re-election. Its free coverage and right wing media has to address it.

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      Neither party runs presidential primaries when their guy is incumbent. It’s almost superstitious, that having someone ‘primary’ your incumbent is going to make them lose (because of losses under those circumstances by Ford, Carter, and Bush Sr.

      Of course the cause/effect is backwards, they were primaried because their administration was at risk, they weren’t at risk because of the primary, but as superstitions go…

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        53 minutes ago

        Hopefully they’ll switch there tone on the “incumbent advantage” after back to back one term presidencies.

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      3 hours ago

      They stopped running primaries because they almost lost control of the party to Bernie Sanders in 2016.

      The DNC will never make that mistake again. It made their doners very upset.

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        2 hours ago

        But they are still running primaries? If talking about the presidential specifically, they did a typical primary in 2020 and sure in 2024 it was not done, but we’ve got people blaming “real primaries” against incumbents for losses in 76, 80, and 92 and neither party does it as a result.

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          It is, as others have said, a backwards cause and effect. Weak candidates are more likely to have an incumbent primary forced on them. It makes more sense to run primaries every election because it will allow candidates more actual screen time.

          Look at it this way. Of the last 2 elections the party that ran a primary won both times. If you do the last 20 years only Obama won election without a primary. Thats 33% odds of a no primary win.

          The thing that changed? Citizen’s united