Doesn’t matter about the ifs. People decried Biden for not stopping the conflict. Here’s trump saying he’ll do much, much worse. Where all the Genocide Joe’s at? Oh right, they never cared. Just needed something to sway people opinions away from Dems.
Also, you left out the critical part of my quote (which is just arguing in bad faith) Bidens does as much as he can without pissing off our corporate overlords. This is an oligarchy and has been for years. Money rules all. The war machine demands blood to convert into dollars.
Here? It looks like the person who posted this is what you’d call a “genocide joe”. There are tons of people in this thread like me arguing that what he did is still horrible. Do you want us to say trump is worse? Yeah rhetorically, but objectively Biden presided over a year and a half of unmitigated horrors and trump has presided over a ceasefire.
Money rules all. The war machine demands blood to convert into dollars.
If this were true, Biden wouldn’t have pulled out of Afghanistan. He did though, despite huge backlash, which i commend him for, because he knew the war was an unjust waste of money. He didn’t do the same for Gaza because he is a staunch zionist. This also ignores his lame duck period where he wasn’t beholden to any corporate interests, and he still kept sending weapons to Israel, because he’s doing it out of principal not pressure.
Also it’s not like Afghanistan since there’s still another war going on. If Biden cared about the genocide he could make a deal with these oligarchs to compensate any loss in sales in gaza with more spending on Ukraine.
If this were true, Biden wouldn’t have pulled out of Afghanistan.
Leftists respect and remember this, especially given how the mainstream media went full warhawk on Biden for actually doing it. If only Biden had got his head out of his old racist ass and used his power to stop the Palestinian Genocide.
Biden presided over a year and a half of unmitigated horrors and trump has presided over a ceasefire
… That started under Biden. As far as US diplomats were involved, who do you think was in charge of directing them?
If we want to give the US president credit for a ceasefire, why would we give the credit to the one who any involvement happened before they were in office, to say nothing of the one who wasn’t even in office when it started?
Yes bidens diplomats made the deal, along with Qatari and Egyptian mediators, but they were unable to get Israel to sign it. It was only after trump was elected and started talking to bibi as the president elect that the Israelis signed the same deal that they rejected 6 months ago.
They hadn’t achieved any significant accomplishment that would prompt them to say “we’re good now” and finally sign. The only thing that changed was the incoming administration.
I don’t know what trump said to bibi but whatever it was it changed his mind on a ceasefire. My guess is he just wanted a 6 week break so that he could roll out all the horrible shit he’s been doing in his first month without having to deal with Gaza. They probably went along with it because trump is more likely to follow through on stopping weapons shipments because he’s less committed to the zionist cause and political norms of unwavering “defensive” support for Israel.
Or maybe bibi was just tanking peace talks to drag down Biden and they were actually fine 6 months ago but wanted to help trump win first. Possibly with some collusion with the trump campaign but I doubt the dems will ever investigate that like they did russia because that would be anti-semetic.
In either case I don’t think bibi would’ve signed if Harris won. Either because he doesn’t respect her or he wants to drag down the democratic party.
Doesn’t matter about the ifs. People decried Biden for not stopping the conflict. Here’s trump saying he’ll do much, much worse. Where all the Genocide Joe’s at? Oh right, they never cared. Just needed something to sway people opinions away from Dems.
Also, you left out the critical part of my quote (which is just arguing in bad faith) Bidens does as much as he can without pissing off our corporate overlords. This is an oligarchy and has been for years. Money rules all. The war machine demands blood to convert into dollars.
Here? It looks like the person who posted this is what you’d call a “genocide joe”. There are tons of people in this thread like me arguing that what he did is still horrible. Do you want us to say trump is worse? Yeah rhetorically, but objectively Biden presided over a year and a half of unmitigated horrors and trump has presided over a ceasefire.
If this were true, Biden wouldn’t have pulled out of Afghanistan. He did though, despite huge backlash, which i commend him for, because he knew the war was an unjust waste of money. He didn’t do the same for Gaza because he is a staunch zionist. This also ignores his lame duck period where he wasn’t beholden to any corporate interests, and he still kept sending weapons to Israel, because he’s doing it out of principal not pressure.
Also it’s not like Afghanistan since there’s still another war going on. If Biden cared about the genocide he could make a deal with these oligarchs to compensate any loss in sales in gaza with more spending on Ukraine.
Leftists respect and remember this, especially given how the mainstream media went full warhawk on Biden for actually doing it. If only Biden had got his head out of his old racist ass and used his power to stop the Palestinian Genocide.
… That started under Biden. As far as US diplomats were involved, who do you think was in charge of directing them?
If we want to give the US president credit for a ceasefire, why would we give the credit to the one who any involvement happened before they were in office, to say nothing of the one who wasn’t even in office when it started?
Yes bidens diplomats made the deal, along with Qatari and Egyptian mediators, but they were unable to get Israel to sign it. It was only after trump was elected and started talking to bibi as the president elect that the Israelis signed the same deal that they rejected 6 months ago.
They hadn’t achieved any significant accomplishment that would prompt them to say “we’re good now” and finally sign. The only thing that changed was the incoming administration.
I don’t know what trump said to bibi but whatever it was it changed his mind on a ceasefire. My guess is he just wanted a 6 week break so that he could roll out all the horrible shit he’s been doing in his first month without having to deal with Gaza. They probably went along with it because trump is more likely to follow through on stopping weapons shipments because he’s less committed to the zionist cause and political norms of unwavering “defensive” support for Israel.
Or maybe bibi was just tanking peace talks to drag down Biden and they were actually fine 6 months ago but wanted to help trump win first. Possibly with some collusion with the trump campaign but I doubt the dems will ever investigate that like they did russia because that would be anti-semetic.
In either case I don’t think bibi would’ve signed if Harris won. Either because he doesn’t respect her or he wants to drag down the democratic party.
It was Trump’s envoy that secured the ceasefire