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Good thing we didn’t elect GENORCIDE JOE.
But Biden wouldn’t give me everything exactly the way I wanted! Guess I’ll just throw my vote away so Trump can win 🙄
Waahhh you’re being mean just because a bunch of lefties fucked up bigly!
Everything exactly the way I wanted? People are upset about funding genocide Holmes, what the fuck are you talking about?
Edit: I feel like I’m taking crazy pills, everyone is supposed to just be cool with genocide and deserve derision and mockery if they aren’t? What the fuck happened to empathy?
No, you’re not supposed to be cool with funding genocide. The problem is that BOTH SIDES support the genocide, so you have to look at what other things differentiate them, like one side also wanting to kill LGBTQ people and immigrants, for example. The best option is damage mitigation, not sitting back and letting the greater evil win.
Yes, I don’t disagree. That’s what i did.
Framing anyone unhappy with genocide as a purity testing lefty who didn’t get everything they wanted so they pouted and sat out the election is wildly blasé, however, and its gross that that’s a popular sentiment here.
It’s reasonable, because most people whining about supporting Israel’s genocide don’t acknowledge that it’s a policy of the US government that anybody who could ever win an election would also support. It’s unconscionable, it’s horrible, it’s a crime against humanity, but it’s also not a factor in choosing who to vote for to cause the least harm in a shitty first past the post system.
I’ll always be amazed that in a discussion about how stupid something is, people do the same stupid thing.
I’ll always be amazed at the neo liberal tendency to believe you can be as atrocious as you want because you’re the “good guys”. It’s the voters fault they didn’t vote for your candidate after all, the Harris and the Biden campaigns were both run perfectly. The Democrats were entitled to the presidency, but the population is just too stupid.
You must understand that Democrat voters are insanely racist and do not see Palestinians as human. They saw it as a side-issue because it does not affect them. This is showcased by their current disregard of the Democrats complicity in the genocide.
They do not care one single bit about brown people being slaughtered in droves by Joe Biden. They are now in glee those brown people were slaughtered.
Yeah, now we just get continued and worsened genocide in Gaza and an even faster decline into fascism in the United States! This was definitely worth it to stick it to the Dems!
And before you call me a lib, I’m not. I just have 2 brain cells to rub together and understood that voting 3rd party is sadly a complete and utter waste of time in our system. I also understood that letting Trump get elected was going to make things far, far worse like it already has.
Dems were far from perfect and aren’t much better than the Republicans, but they are still better. I would love it if the socialist party or at least one leftist party could get elected, but I live under this fucked up system and until it’s gone, we’re stuck with 2 parties. At least until Trump or Elon bans Democrats from existing. Neither party will change that, but one of them is definitively better than the other
Look how casually this person talks about genocide. Refusing to participate in the modern day Holocaust started by the Democrats is “sticking it to the dems”. Absolutely zero care for the massacared non white women and children.
At least be honest and say you do not care about brown people and think Trump will personally affect you worse.
It sure is strange to beliefs shoved into the mouths of millions of people like that. “Insanely racist” and “don’t see Palestine’s as human” is just about the stupidest and most ridiculous thing you could say about, of all voting demographics, the left in the US. Inane insulting nonsense like this is why people on lemmy don’t take the rest of your opinions seriously.
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Yup, I helped elect trump by voting for Harris. Great analysis.
Sorry, I interpreted your post as sarcasm. I must have been too caught up in the onslaught of “genorcide Joe” stupidity here.
Sorry but if you live in the US, then for 200+ years there have been two candidates each election with a chance of winning. If you wanted to cut off your nose to spite your face by not voting for Biden, which objectively only helped Trump, then congrats, you made everything worse for everyone. And that includes the Israel-Palestine conflict.
I voted for Harris.
True. Instead of repeating the state propaganda verbatim, NYT now needs to do crazy word plays on Trumps honesty to sell the genocide to their audience.
They’re both exactly the same, right?
Right!?!
Yep, other than a dozen critically important issues, exactly the same! And of course Trump is as bad or worse on Palestine. Great move for these self-proclaimed communists to help get a true fascist elected.
Trump could execute the last living Palestine on live tv and these idiots would still claim they made the right choice.
They don’t actually give a fuck about Palestinians, it’s virtue signaling in its purest form.
The fact that the Democratic Party threw the election was absolutely not a good thing. In order to win an election, a campaign needs to offer concessions to voters to earn as many votes as possible. Something the Democratic Party’s Campaign decisively chose not to do, and in fact do the opposite.
The total uncommitted in the Primary was 706,591 (Which may have been undercounted) which is absolutely massive for a primary. On average, general turnout is twice that of primary turnout. The Democratic Party knew that at they were risking at least 1.4 million votes by ignoring the issue. They also knew throughout the whole campaign that a vast majority of their constituents wanted weapons embargo and permanent ceasefire (required by domestic and international law), plus a majority of independents and Republicans. There was no valid reason for the Democratic Party to ignore the demands of that many voters, especially if trying to win an election
Instead, they chose to arrest thousands of student protestors, gave billions of dollars to a genocide at the tax payers expense consistently for 15 months, actively suppressed the voices and representation of the main victims of the genocide, and campaigned with Liz Cheney (who was actively involved with the Bush-Cheney foreign policy in the middle east and enthusiastically pro ethnic cleansing of Palestinians). They chose to do all that instead of represent the view of the majority of their constituents and abide by domestic/international law.
And that was just one of the major issues, along with immigration and the economy, that tanked the approval of the Democratic Party. If the Democratic Party wanted to actually win against Trump they would have done everything to gain as many votes as possible. They chose not to. They threw the election and let an unpopular fascist win.
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concessions to voters
You mean lies. You wanted them to lie more.
And I agree. The Republicans do it so the Democrats need to as well. It’s just harder to lie to thinking folks.
I mean. I want them to hang the 1% throw their children to the wolves spread the bounty of earth to everyone dig canals and run public transit ferries with compensated live artists and open bars that I can use to travel to museums, libraries, and orgies.
But barring that yea maybe like dress your fucking corporate genocide agenda up a little better.
I want them to have actual actions, both in popular policies and effective politics. But yes, they couldn’t even be bothered to lie about enacting progressive policies that would improve the material needs of the working class. Such as codifying abortion rights, expanding Medicare to universal healthcare, implementating public housing and expanding renter’s rights/protections, cracking down on corporations on not only price gouging but also trust busting, implementating expansive public infrastructure projects. Under the policy spoiler you can find a whole bunch of policies that are overwhelmingly popular with every American and would improve people’s livelyhood. It would be the best way to fracture the Republican base of support, but it would require going after the bottom line of corporations.
That would have been impossible as he wasn’t even running.
This is true. That didn’t stop the “genorcide joe” people from acting as if he was though, by connecting Harris to him.
Ny times has proven again they are zionist. The wrote multiple article about gaza genocide disputing facts and even got called out by Israeli news media .
These outlet lives in the 1990 thinking people cant easily find out the truth.
He already eliminated global aid.
That aid was soft power he gave away. And since we’re the baddies/monsters, it’s probably for the best we’ve lost so many coersion chips.
I say this as an American, fuck us up world.
“I’ve been a bad boy”
The New York Crimes: White Washing Israel’s genocide and war crimes since 1948. Now with more bootlicking
