• kameecoding@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    What risks did they use to take? As long as I remember the Marvel movies have been formulaic copies

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      1 year ago

      Giving creative control to specific directors to let their vision shine through the project: Iron Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor Love and Thunder, etc.

      Edit meant Thor Ragnarok the Taika Waititi directed movie.

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        1 year ago

        I mean, Iron man was like literally the first movie in the MCU (discounting that Hulk movie), it also literally started the trope of Bad Guy has literally the same skillset/power as the good guy that was replicated a bunch of times.

        GotG, and Thor: Ragnarok are the only movies that are unique and carried by their directors.

        Love and thunder is a dumpster fire.

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          I think bad guy having the same skillset is really just a superhero trope.

          • Flash vs Zoom
          • Green vs Yellow Lantern
          • Spidey vs Venom
          • Aquaman vs Black Manta
          • Wonder woman vs Ares
          • Green Arrow vs Dark Archer

          I listed DC heroes primarily to show it isn’t just a Marvel thing. But all of these arch enemies are basically evil duplicates of the hero.

          I think the trope largely stems from a “How do you defeat someone who is as powerful/strong as you” kinda thing.

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              Well it’d be the ratio we care about, but let’s see (should only count first movie to simplify) and just saying yes if villian has same powers.

              Marvel:

              • Ironman - yes
              • Cap - yes
              • Thor - no
              • Hulk (if you count 2008 film) - yes
              • Guardians - pass (ensemble so kinda hard to say)
              • Antman - yes
              • Doctor Strange - yes
              • Spiderman - no
              • Black Panther - yes
              • Cpt Marvel - No/maybe

              DC:

              • Superman - yes (cause this iteration started with Zod, even if lex Luther is real arch enemy)
              • Batman - pass (too many reboots and maybe we count anyone cause he has no powers)
              • Wonder woman - yes
              • Flash - yes
              • Aquaman - yes (maybe BlackManta is different enough, but I’m counting it)
              • Bluebeetle - yes
              • Shazam - no

              So 6/10 vs 4/7 or 60% for marvel vs 57% for DC. So surprisingly around the same.

              Edited to fix formatting

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                1 year ago

                You can’t not count batman, it’s a no.

                So is Aquaman.

                And so is Wonder Woman, not sure how you can say Ares has the same skillset as WW.

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          Ah I think Thor Ragnarok was what I meant, the Taika Waititi directed movie

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      I mean making a movie about Iron Man, not the most popular character they had, starring Robert Downey Jr, who was recovering from all sorts of issues.