• Death_Equity@lemmy.world
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    If you ever want to spend more on eggs and poultry products, getting chickens is a great option. It isn’t cheaper by a long shot when you factor in your time and proper care.

    The reason why eggs can be as cheap as they are is because the poultry farms do not give a shit about the birds and feed them the cheapest they can and don’t concern themselves with avian healthcare.

    If you want cheap eggs, be friends with someone who has chickens. Most birds will lay 1-2 eggs a day when they are in their prime. So 6 chickens will make a dozen eggs every other day. After a month you have 12-15 dozen eggs. The family probably eats 40-60 eggs a month, so you can see how the difference works in the favor of friends.

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      Yeah but chickens are awesome pets. It’s like having a herd of miniature dinosaurs.

      They have unique personalities (chickenalities?), too. That might be in my imagination because sometimes I like to get high and hang out with them and give them dialogue.

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        They’re also amazing pest control! You’ll immediately find your yard completely free of grasshoppers, mosquitoes, cockroaches, and practically any other crawling think because those fuckers are vicious and will eat all of them.

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        My sister got chickens in her adulthood. We didn’t grow up with them or anything. I went over a few years ago and saw her chickens all meandering wherever they wanted in her backyard while she tried to herd them all to their pen I was able to catch one of them and put her in their pen. It did kind of remind me of mini-dinos though.

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          You really don’t have to herd them…they’ll put themselves back in every night when it starts getting dark.

          When they are little and getting used to it, they might need a reminder…but as long as I leave the door open for them when they free range, they find their way back to the coop.

          They also don’t wander too far. They’ve got a few social gathering spots in the yard but they never really jump the fence. Last time it happened was because the coop door blew shu before she could get in and she was trying to find shelter for the night.

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      If you ever want to spend more on eggs and poultry products, getting chickens is a great option. It isn’t cheaper by a long shot when you factor in your time and proper care.

      If you want cheap eggs, be friends with someone who has chickens.

      Note that the same approach also works well with boats and IMHO, albeit to a lesser degree, pets.

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      An easy solution to high feed cost and an overproduction of eggs is to feed them lightly cooked scrambled eggs. Two birds with one stone. And a war crime.

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        That is valid, but selling them for $3 a dozen to people you know or feeding scrambled eggs to your dog and/or cat is a better use of them.

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      The egg quality can be night and day though. The cheapest supermarket brand eggs I can get always seem pretty thin and watery compared to organic free range. We could also sell the surplus to neighbors (building up local neighborhood relations, which have languished is modern era).

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    Chicks used to be $2.70, $3.00 for the fancy ones like Easter Eggers.

    I just paid $5.40 each for regular old red chickens. Easter Eggers were $7.50 It’s not like I’m NOT going to resupply my flock but damn, double price.

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      I was reading that a major constraint on chicken farmers in the US is that they have to rebuild their stock after huge losses in chickens, and you cannot just instantly magic up an infinite supply of new chickens – takes a while to scale that up. It sounded like the companies that raise chickens are not the same as the ones that produce eggs – like, if you’re an egg-producing-farm, you’re competing on the open market with individuals to buy chickens. So it’s gonna drive up the price for random individual who just wants a chicken and buys from the same chicken-raisers.

      All that being said, if a chicken is going for $6, I cannot imagine that the price of a chicken is a huge part of the price of eggs. Like, feed, a hutch, care, heating, maintenance of the infrastructure…that’s gotta outweigh the price of the chicken substantially.

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        Yeah, the price of the chick is tiny. Once you have the coop the main cost is feed, except that if they use half of my property then I spend more in property tax for that half than I spend on chicken feed.

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      I don’t know chickens… But it seems like buying one is cheaper than buying a dozen eggs… I get it needs a place to live and upkeep… Even if you needed to buy 12 it seems like once they lay eggs you would end up with more eggs than you knew what to do with them… Sell them to your neighbors for 3 bucks a dozen and bam free eggs…

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        Yeah, it’s cheaper than buying eggs. I’m also using them to rehab the back yard. Before I moved in there was sort of a private junkyard back there, now the soil is in much better shape

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    My family has had chickens for years. The eggs are fresher and taste better and we know what they are eating. They are not less expensive but you can’t eat money.

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      How often do they lay eggs? If I wanted to eat eggs every day, how many of them will I need to sustain?

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        It depends on the variety and how old they are. Leghorns lay almost every day from around six months old to around 18 months old. Then the moult and their laying drops off. Generally you rotate the birds so that you have enough birds in lay to supply your needs. Probably three birds in lay would provide a couple of eggs most days.

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    Can someone explain why eggs are so fucking important for Americans?

    Do you eat pancakes everyday?

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      you need eggs to make any box mix desserts, and eggs are in a lot of recipes, baked goods etc. eggs have also always been a relatively cheap and healthy source of protein.

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      Eggs are used all over cooking… baking, many recipes call for egg, and yes, breakfast.

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      The average American eats about 270-290 eggs per year, across all foods. It’s a cheap, versatile ingredient.

      The U.S. isn’t even that far out of the ordinary among other nations, 19th out of this list of 185 (if you include Hong Kong and Macau as their own jurisdictions). Seems like most of Asia and South America eats more eggs than most of Europe, but it’s not like there aren’t European countries in the top 20.

      The reason why there’s a lot of coverage of eggs isn’t because of the high number of eggs in an American diet or the high proportion of a household budget spent on eggs, but it’s just that it’s a commodity that happened to spike in price, more than triple what it cost 4 years ago.

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        Exactly this. That’s not even a lot really. Less than one egg per day, or a single meal of eggs (assuming 3 eggs) twice a week.

        The big issue is the price hike of a previously cheap meal and protein source.

        It’s weird all the anti-egg stuff in this thread, it’s not about the eggs per se. Various beans have gone up in price in recent years, various meats are much more expensive than they were prior to the pandemic, and in recent years now eggs have gone way up.

        For people on tight budgets, it’s brutal. What do you do when there are no more cheap meals you can make to maintain your budget? Then you have to make cuts elsewhere, if that’s even possible.

        I make low six figures now and keep my costs low, but in recent years even I’ve started bulk shopping via Sam’s Club to save money because going to the normal supermarket has me paying $500 a trip for two weeks of food for just me and my wife, and that didn’t include small supplemental trips.

        Going bulk and being selective has cut that down to $600-$700 every 5+ weeks. But poor folks on tight budgets generally can’t throw that much on a single trip and will get nickel and dimed by this crap. I’ve been there; being poor is fucking expensive, and there’s a lot of shit in place to keep you that way.

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      do you eat pancakes everyday?

      Have you not seen us?

      Seriously we probably eat way more breakfast confections than you would expect. That’s the vast majority of us are not making them scratch theyr getting them out of a box

      The main thing at play right now is that the political stance of our right-wing fascist dictators was that grocery prices would come down and egg prices were artificially high with the last guy.

      It was campaign after campaign on eggs being so expensive for no reason.

      Their base was so big on why did Biden let eggs get so expensive It was honestly annoying as f. Now that their guy is in they’re breaking open the textbooks and explaining to us that it’s bird flu and a lot of the birds are dying and eggs are more expensive

      The problem is, the last time this happened there was a great shortage of eggs. You could hardly find them the prices were high.

      Now every store you go into is running over with eggs and the prices are twice as high as they were back then.

      Ensure, sorry for the annoyance eggs being a dollar a piece is not the end of the world for us by far but it’s an indicator that something is going wrong. And it’s a nice distraction from all the Nazi salutes on our mainstream news

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      It’s not just that everyday American families eat eggs for breakfast every day. It’s that eggs are essential ingredients in a lot of basic foods. Pasta, meatballs, breading…

      A good comparison would be to bread prices and the riots that occurred due o rises in bread prices during the great depression and other times of instability in various countries across the centuries.

      If the lowest ingredient prices go up, that makes everything go up, and impacts everyone. This causes panic and chaos in lower classes and eventual revolts against leadership.

      This is more than just eggs

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        I know that eggs are very expensive in US recently. However, I can very easily do without eggs in my usual diet and I know nobody who buys eggs in such quantities as Americans seem to do.

        So what do you all eat? Pancakes every morning? Or fried egg? Or do you love baking so much? I’m just curious btw.

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    As a reminder to those who have never raised layers before, especially those in suburbs, layers generally start really slowing egg production around the five year mark. So if your seriously just getting them for eggs and being more “cost effective”, your going to want to butcher them after a few years.