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Summary
Donald Trump has announced plans to impose 25% tariffs on the European Union, claiming the bloc was “formed to screw the United States.”
While details are pending, he suggested the levies would target cars and other imports. The EU, a major U.S. trading partner, has vowed immediate retaliation, with potential tariffs impacting $29.3 billion in exports.
French President Emmanuel Macron had attempted to dissuade Trump, urging focus on China instead.
Critics, including economists and conservative media, warn the tariffs could harm the U.S. economy.
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Surely this will lower egg prices!
This is all done in the name of citizen consumers right? Trying to make life better for the good folks that voted for him?
Do you really think Krasnov cares now that he is king?
Inb4 EU and Canada signs a great trade deal just to screw over Trump.
He already blinked on the Canada tariffs. Put it off another month. We didn’t even pretend to do anything to appease him this time.
I don’t see that he’s put it off. He’s all over the place about it, as usual, but it’s still a possibility.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/tariffs-update-march-4-1.7468442
Bloomberg is reporting it’s pushed back to April 2:
But you’re right, he’s all over the place about it.
Current reports say you’re right and they’re still on for next week.
If his intent is to cause chaos, he overdid it. It’s impossible to care at this point.
i think the intent is to make people stop caring. “Bury them in a flood of it. Make them clinical depressed.”
canadians should continue to buy canadian or the EU, asian anD SA. remember when china no longer needed soybeans from usa the last tariff he did.
canadians should continue to buy canadian or the EU, a
We are. And the retailers are responding by giving non-US stuff more shelf space and not re-stocking with US product where there is an alternate available to them.
As an American, I agree. They should.
We already have a good deal. CETA just need to be taken advantage of
As EU citizen, I don’t think that’s a good deal for us, as we are importing food that do not match our environmental criterias. It’s anti-concurrential for inside food producers that have to conform these environmental laws. It would have been good if the deal was to import things that were produced respecting our laws (no offense).
Do you know the food standards laws, or are you assuming? We are not the US, our laws are much stricter. As an example, I saw someone in the EU say Canada would never want your dairy laws because we would have to pasteurize our milk which would increase the price. Thing is… we do pasteurize our milk. That’s already a rule.
But that’s irrelevant anyway. Freetrade means free of duty or tariff, not free of regulations. Any Canadian goods (including food) sold in the EU, must meet EU standards.
So if your objection is legal criteria, there is no substance to your objection.
I don’t know much about food standards laws. A bit of french ones, but not international. Most of it is assumed based on what I heard from news and agricultors back when the treaty was validated! So, what you basically say is that Canada also have high standards, and that’s a good news. No GMO? Some organic food (no pesticids)? I’ve never been to your country, but I will come to visit in the future :) Thank you for your answer.
Canada has higher standards, but not as high as they should be. To be clear, the food we sell locally will not necessarily meet EU standards (but most probably would anyway), but the food we sell to you must meet EU standards.
Also, we love visitors to Canada. Toutes mes excuses, le français Québécois est très différent du français parlé en Europe.
I hope you do visit.
Mandatory pro-GMO video https://youtu.be/7TmcXYp8xu4?si=6lj3t9N914evSq7h TLDR: all our food is genetically manipulated. GMO is simply a method to make better targeted interventions.
I’ve been studying biology and genetics at univ., so I understand the topic very well. The problem with GMO is not the technique per se, but the fact that companies can lock agricultors with specific pesticids, regardless of the damage they can do to environment. For example, Gluten molecule was made stronger by French scientists, for the agricultural lobbies during 90-2010, and now a lot of people suffer from this.
Time for Ukraine to join the EU quickly. Tariff his precious minerals.
Orange fuckwit.
We’re trying!
Try harder. EU takes longer to make a decision than a sloth on ketamine
It’s not just a yes or no. Theorically, they have to do many things about corruption, economic stability. They are not supposed to be at war to apply and not to have unstable countries beside. Accepting Ukraine now, would be against all the neighbors countries that have been struggling to enter. EU have to help them getting out of this war (preferably by pushing Russia out entirely), then make peace, then help rebuilding so they are conform to enter. I really hope we manage to make them get there! But it’s long for a reason: stability. The quickest part would be to accept them as candidate, but it needs peace first.
sloth on ketamine
Elon?
It’s easier when you have one guy at the top making decisions. Isn’t it?
There are criteria to joining the EU that Ukraine is nowhere near matching (obviously, since they are at war). By the way, when are DC/PR becoming states?
I still hope Zelenskyy is coming here Friday to announce that they decided to take the deal from Germany, and Zelenskyy ends the press conference with a double bird for Trump. It won’t happen but man I would love Zelenskyy even more if he did.
You never know, he just might
Country that has been screwing every other country for 80 plus years accuses other countries of screwing it.
Trump pretends to be a victim in everything, so this is nothing new
It seems to be a cornerstone of conservatism.
It’s like how PP up in Canada stubs his toe and blames Trudeau for it.
Trudeau put the coffee table there, and he would get rid of it if the people would just elect him.
It just irritates me that that rhetoric works on so many people.
*American conservatism
And with a tarrif, shows who is screwing who.
80 years?! Quadruple that and you might have the real number. Every country within Africa, Asia, Central and South America, too many islands to count would like a word with you.
The US only became a country in 1776
2025 - 1776 = 249
80 x 4 = 320
Way closer than 80 years.
I said 80 plus years. US hegemony also didnt start really taking off until after WW2. Before that they mostly focused on native genocide and being horrible to the Mexicans.
He’s not completely wrong. One of the benefits EU provides is better bargaining power for its members against countries like the US.
Sanctions or tariffs on any individual EU country would likely lead to collective response.
He is completely wrong. The EU was formed after WW2 to prevent another war on the continent and to increase economic cooperation. The fact that makes us a much stronger block for negotiating trade deals was a side benefit, not its purpose. And it only works to screw over countries that are trying to screw us first.
Almost like a certain military alliance this asshole wants out of. Hmmm…
Maybe replace them with Ukraine. I here they have great drone technology.
2 sides to that coin. You also only need presence/trade deal once and you’ve access to a very large market as a whole all at once. In the end, everyone loses with throttled trade for no other reason than “I don’t like them!!” Transatlantic trade has been very beneficial for both sides of the pond for many many decades…
The EU was formed to screw the US… THE EU WAS FORMED TO SCREW THE US?! Bruh dude is possibly channeling Hitler and Stalin simultaneously. That’s the only thing that makes sense. Or he’s terminally dumb. One of the two.
Definitely channeling Putin.
I think it’s both
terminally dumb
This one
Well, his definition of “screw over” is probably when the other side of a negotiation pools resources to be able to negotiate in a balanced way.
In that mindset, workers make Unions to “screw over” big companies.
Because that’s essentially what the EU is: a polling of resources of many small and a few mid-sized countries to on Internation Trade matters negotiate as a block and hence in a balanced way with large countries like the US and China.
Given Trump’s background of using his money to take advantage of contractors for his companies by using lawsuits with no hope of winning meant only to drain out the resources of others and make them quite, it makes perfectly sense that he would see those others pooling resources to be able to face him as “screwing him over” and in that “logic” the EU being created “screw over” the US.
I’m in the EU and I very much I hope he does, beause the response will be spectacular: apparently there is an Act from 2023 that the EU can respond to this by suspending intellectual property rights of US companies, plus from last time Trump was President the EU learned to target counter-Tariffs for maximum political effect (basically hitting Republican states hardest) and that will also work fine in targetting US companies politically affiliated with Trump (bye, bye, Tesla!).
Also it will definitelly finish off any lingering delusions of European politicians that the US is an “ally”.
That would be great if another way to retaliate against US tariffs would be other countries officially hosting pirated US material for anyone to download. Make it extra easy for everyone to boycott American companies!
Yeah howerver for that you’d need Brussels to find its balls and actually start acting like it had a spine.
And of course, find a consensus among all the contradictory interest of the different EU states (including a good chunk aligned on trump’s illiberal approach if not Russian controlled).
Man I REALLY hope you’re right, but I don’t have my hopes up. On another hand if it’s not now, it’ll never happen.
Trump is kinda right. Charles De Gaulle wanted a united Europe to prevent Anglo-American influence. Aside from his Anglophobia, he vetoed UK joining then EEC because he thought UK is a Trojan horse for American influence into Europe. He also thought that the British are reluctant Europeans anyhow, so why let them in?
Fast forward 60 years later, and De Gaulle was found right. US companies tried to lobby the EU through UK. The Brits voted for Brexit, and the US finally became an unreliable ally.
For so much of the French being chauvinistic in a cringey way, they are right not to commit to Anglo influence or Atlanticism, presciently. The French still likes to assert their own global influence but in multilateral way with other countries. Macron and De Gaulle are correct for looking for strategic autonomy.
Edit: I also want to add, that the Brussels effect forces other countries to adopt higher standards and regulations if they want to trade with the EU. Obviously, many right wing Americans such as Trump don’t like this.
Brussels effects haters be like: “I really fucking hate USB type-C cables being on every device where it makes sense! I want to bo back to expensive and crappy proprietary cables only the original manufacturer is allowed to make!”
You will plug in ze usb c and you will be happy
That, nukes, NATO… It may have been rank anglophobia, but man, did history prove him right…
I know it’s a whine, but roughly a quarter of the country voted for Brexit.
Remember that when you bag on Americans for putting Trump in office.
I haven’t done that for this exact reason.
I wouldn’t shut up about how Brexit was dumb as fuck either.
Russia’s just been killing it with their disinformation campaigns the past 10 years. The UK exited the EU and now they’ve captured the US government. Sucks!
I mean, we have retaliatory tariffs ready to go too, and I’m not sure they’d be any less damaging.
If we went nuclear shutting off power to New York and water to Seattle and Boise is a thing we could do.
They backed off twice already. Its a joke at this point.
Twice? Are you thinking of the first term thing?
The last time, it really looked like he panicked when the Dow (predictably, to everyone else) fell. If he blinks every time, yeah, it’s never going to actually happen, although I can’t see him deciding that actually he’s wrong about tariffs being awesome.
He pushed it by a month again. Now its for sure actually defenitely gonna happen in April Im serious guys no really.
Uhh, this CBC story is from a couple hours ago: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-tariff-march-4-1.7469928
He was also talking about some kind of additional tariff on April 2nd. On the auto industry (that will be shut down if he follows through anyway), IIRC. That being said, as CBC noted elsewhere he himself is bad at keeping his threats straight.
Huh. There were some CBC articles floating around saying they were postponed again. I guess not? The articles are gone.
I feel like nobody knows wtf is going on.
After I sent this, I saw a clip about it. It looks like he did suggest it was all on April 2 in some interview. If he had it wrong, was deliberately being confusing or what is unclear, but it hardly matters.
We’ll see what happens then, basically. Either way, we should be getting the hell away from American dependence.
I feel like nobody knows wtf is going on.
That’s exactly what they want.
Do it. I know some people in New York who could use a reality check.
And hopefully Trump would care? Last time we blacked them out (by accident) all hell broke loose in just a day, but they don’t vote Republican.
Come to think of it, we could also cut off land access to Alaska. We’re going to wait for him to escalate this first, though.
The bat needs to bounce back and also hit the fascist ball in the face. Making things worse for everybody for no reason!
Oui oui le tariff oui
The Orange Turd has found his favorite word and he will use it for everything!
His children who wants to be in the will? Tariff!!!
Tariffing the school canoe? Oh, you better believe that’s a tariff!
The EU was setup to help protect Europe and enable them to have better control over overly enthusiastic capitalist companies such as those found in the US.
But what do we expect from a low intelligence puppet of Russia?
He’s such a petulant little baby. Macron corrected me, now I’m mad. 😭🍼👶🫃 Fuck Putin Puppet.
Wtf kinda drug are the elite in the US on?
Cocaine, I remember hearing about Elon Musk’s supplier a while back. Most of the Republican Party is cranked, too, according to a historically young GOP congressman Madison Cawthorn.
Russian psy-ops boosted by algos from coked up tech bros.
Ketamine, or so I heard.
Capitalism.
Side effects include electing a complete moron and his piss baby groupies to the presidency
We need a dictator then?
Money and power the name of that drog
Special K if Elon is any indication
Money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP2EKTCngiM Being rich is a mental disease. You don’t think straight when you are rich. The best solution is to not let people bi rich, ever.
Trump’s tariffs: Swinging a 25% hammer while shouting, “They started it!”—peak trade war theatrics.
😺😺😺😺
Fucking do it then, cunt!
