Born and raised in fundamentalist evangelical Christianity. The vast majority of evangelicals will know the story of Moses and the golden calf.
A significant minority of evangelicals actually regularly study the Bible. (I used to be one of them.) They tend to be the core of the membership and teach classes and have leadership positions. See Mike Johnson for an example.
The level of internal propaganda is wild. To be able to maintain that faith while regularly studying the Bible takes a lot of willing suspension of disbelief. Basically, they live in a bubble where they self-censor incoming information.
Something like the ex-mormon CES Letter is needed for the evangelicals. Homeschooling also needs to have required curriculum to give children logical tools.
Conservative cultural christians are a different problem and probably what you’re actually thinking of. They’re useful idiots for the far right as well as the evangelicals. They really don’t know much about the Bible or denominations around them and tend to believe what they were told last by far right media or their smart uncle who’s into conspiracy theories and shit. Political and religious outrage as entertainment.
7 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt. 8 They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’
9 “I have seen these people,” the Lord said to Moses, “and they are a stiff-necked people. 10 Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation.”
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25 Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies. 26 So he stood at the entrance to the camp and said, “Whoever is for the Lord, come to me.” And all the Levites rallied to him.
The whole point of the antichrist is they rise to power by exploiting Christians and their faith…
Like, everything about the two line up that I’m starting to think trump is literally using the myth as a blueprint. Like, at some point someone told him about it, and his first and only thought was:
I think it’s kind of the opposite. The Bible was written as a response to and warning of human greed. The fashion in which people come to power has changed since then, but human greed doesn’t change.
The irony is not lost that the Bible itself was turned into a tool for greed and oppression, but I think that the actual core of the religion (Christ’s teachings or whatever) were meant to warn people about the dangers of doing greedy human things.
Dude has a literal golden goat… That’s would be a pretty big coincidence.
Don’t forget his first Christian supporters was the Evangelicalists. People who got so tired of waiting for the apocalypse they decided to help it along to get to the rapture.
That’s what’s up with the Israel support as well, it’s supposed to start there, and it’s supposed to be a “Jewish Kingdom”.
That and the antichrist coming to power are the two big things, it’s not implausible they think trump is the actual antichrist, understand how terrible he is, but want to give him ultimate power to hasten judgement day
Wasn’t worshipping a false idol considered a BAD thing?
Just don’t consider it a false idol. That’s the trick.
Stick your money-plated golden calf in a big box and have four old dudes carry it around on a palanquin. Then get a dozen DOGE agents to lead it in front of a government agency, blow their shofars, and pull funding until it collapses.
Boom. Straight out of the Book of Joshua, Chapter 6. Not much more holy than the Siege of Jericho.
Oh yeah. I think I read one long ago when I was young and indoctrinated. Maybe even seen a movie? Yes, but not the Nic Cage one, the 2000 one.
That’s something I haven’t thought about in a long time. Thanks for bringing it up (not sarcasm). I’ll have to look into it from a different perspective.
Worshipping anything else than God is the big super bad. Joshua saw a Jew sleeping with a non-believer and Joshua put a spear through them both. God was like “Hell yeah, dude!” and promoted him to be the new Moses.
I haven’t watched The Ten Commandments in a long while so please help me remember. Wasn’t worshipping a false idol considered a BAD thing?
I think there is literally a story in the bible where someone puts a golden goat in his garden or wherever and then gets punished by god
Edit: It was a golden calf
His name was Mooby
You didn’t say “bless you” when I sneezed!
Any true Christian would know this story. You’re either not Christian, or Evangelical Christian.
Born and raised in fundamentalist evangelical Christianity. The vast majority of evangelicals will know the story of Moses and the golden calf.
A significant minority of evangelicals actually regularly study the Bible. (I used to be one of them.) They tend to be the core of the membership and teach classes and have leadership positions. See Mike Johnson for an example.
The level of internal propaganda is wild. To be able to maintain that faith while regularly studying the Bible takes a lot of willing suspension of disbelief. Basically, they live in a bubble where they self-censor incoming information.
Something like the ex-mormon CES Letter is needed for the evangelicals. Homeschooling also needs to have required curriculum to give children logical tools.
Conservative cultural christians are a different problem and probably what you’re actually thinking of. They’re useful idiots for the far right as well as the evangelicals. They really don’t know much about the Bible or denominations around them and tend to believe what they were told last by far right media or their smart uncle who’s into conspiracy theories and shit. Political and religious outrage as entertainment.
What a wonderful and illuminating reply to my snarky sarcasm! Thank you! That’s all very interesting.
7 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt. 8 They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’
9 “I have seen these people,” the Lord said to Moses, “and they are a stiff-necked people. 10 Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation.” …
25 Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies. 26 So he stood at the entrance to the camp and said, “Whoever is for the Lord, come to me.” And all the Levites rallied to him.
When does the punishment part happen
The whole point of the antichrist is they rise to power by exploiting Christians and their faith…
Like, everything about the two line up that I’m starting to think trump is literally using the myth as a blueprint. Like, at some point someone told him about it, and his first and only thought was:
I think it’s kind of the opposite. The Bible was written as a response to and warning of human greed. The fashion in which people come to power has changed since then, but human greed doesn’t change.
The irony is not lost that the Bible itself was turned into a tool for greed and oppression, but I think that the actual core of the religion (Christ’s teachings or whatever) were meant to warn people about the dangers of doing greedy human things.
Dude has a literal golden goat… That’s would be a pretty big coincidence.
Don’t forget his first Christian supporters was the Evangelicalists. People who got so tired of waiting for the apocalypse they decided to help it along to get to the rapture.
That’s what’s up with the Israel support as well, it’s supposed to start there, and it’s supposed to be a “Jewish Kingdom”.
That and the antichrist coming to power are the two big things, it’s not implausible they think trump is the actual antichrist, understand how terrible he is, but want to give him ultimate power to hasten judgement day
It’s not rational, but there’s logic to it.
Just don’t consider it a false idol. That’s the trick.
Stick your money-plated golden calf in a big box and have four old dudes carry it around on a palanquin. Then get a dozen DOGE agents to lead it in front of a government agency, blow their shofars, and pull funding until it collapses.
Boom. Straight out of the Book of Joshua, Chapter 6. Not much more holy than the Siege of Jericho.
Yes, but only if one was actually a believer of said religion.
“Christian” Nationalists are just Nazis With An Excuse.
There’s a whole analog horror series that spawned because of that
Which? I love analog horror.
I know of one :The Left Behind series. Had books for teens and ones for adults.
Oh yeah. I think I read one long ago when I was young and indoctrinated. Maybe even seen a movie? Yes, but not the Nic Cage one, the 2000 one.
That’s something I haven’t thought about in a long time. Thanks for bringing it up (not sarcasm). I’ll have to look into it from a different perspective.
True.
But was idolation for a false idol not one off the signes off the anti-christ. And he was also having his own valuta… an other sing.
Worshipping anything else than God is the big super bad. Joshua saw a Jew sleeping with a non-believer and Joshua put a spear through them both. God was like “Hell yeah, dude!” and promoted him to be the new Moses.
Stupid Libtard of COURSE NOT! Otherwise we would HATE Trump!