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Just an FYI on Sandisk.
They were acquired by Western Digital in 2016.
So this bullshit falls as much at WD’s feet as it does their wholly owned subsidiary, Sandisk.
I completely lost trust in Western Digital after they lied about their NAS drives. Cost me a lot of money that stunt.
They are still operated pretty separately internally.
These drives were sold under both brands, the response has been the same for both.
50% percent off a product that is almost guaranteed to lead to complete data loss?
By Grabthar’s Hammer, what a savings!
50% percent off a product that is almost guaranteed to lead to complete data loss?
Get them for people you hate. 😏
You are a scholar and a gentleman! A prince among men, you might say…
I came back to comment. I’m still chuckling at your Galaxy Quest quote
I just wish text could convey the soul crushing ennui Rickman displayed when he delivered the line.
For the delivery alone, I think it’s my favorite line in the whole movie.
ennui
Next step is to fold in the cheese
Let’s be clear that a failing part is one thing but silently dumping them on the public is the unforgivable failure. I hope shareholders are seeing this and selling.
I hope shareholders are seeing this and selling.
Sandisk has been a wholly owned subsidiary of Western Digital since 2016.
WD’s share price is up ~25% this year…
They’re saving a ton by not matching our 401ks anymore
Sorry, I don’t know the term. What is a 401k?
“401k” is an American term of art. It’s like a pension fund except you’re directly investing into the stock market and not pooling risk with anyone else. Money contributed to a 401k isn’t taxed until you retire, but in exchange you can only contribute direct earnings from the job sponsoring your account.
As part of a benefits package, some employers also offer contribution “matching”. It’s very similar to the concept of employers matching charitable donations – for every personal dollar you put in, they chip in as well. How much they contribute will also vary. Some places will do dollar-for-dollar matching up to a maximum salary percentage (e.g.: If I earn $50k and get 5% matching, the employer will match the first $2500 I contribute). Other companies will instead contribute pennies on the dollar at a fixed percentage rate (e.g.: If I save the annual maximum of $22,500 and get 5% matching, the employer will contribute $1,125). And yes – it’s never a pleasant surprise when you’re expecting the good matching and instead get the shitty matching.
In any case, because 401k matching is technically only a job benefit, there aren’t many rules against employers reneging on it. It’s one of the first corners that tend to get cut in workplaces where the boss doesn’t have to look their underlings in the eye on a regular basis.
Surely actual pension contributions would be better than having your employer partially fund what is essentially a big financial gamble?
Or… Is that the idea? Another way for US employers to screw their fellow citizens over and give them as little as possible in return for their lives of labour?
The world just makes me sadder and sadder. There’s just no real good news any more, only bad :-(
Surely actual pension contributions would be better than having your employer partially fund what is essentially a big financial gamble?
FWIW: pensions do carry similar risk factors. Most pensions are only financially sustainable because they’re invested into the public market and it’s entirely possible for a pension fund to go belly-up due to mismanagement as a result.
You are essentially correct in identifying that 401ks are much riskier, however. Most working adults would probably rather have the security of a pension instead of being given a rope to potentially hang themselves by.
Or… Is that the idea? Another way for US employers to screw their fellow citizens over and give them as little as possible in return for their lives of labour?
In a sense? I doubt most employers actively scheme to do evil to their employees, but the outcome is fairly sinister nonetheless. Pensions used to be much more common in the U.S. until getting largely replaced by the 401k during the 70s. These days, the only jobs that tend to offer pensions are government/unioned… which I think says all that needs to be said about which option is more pro-worker.
The one place where 401ks really shine is (legal) tax evasion and high-spend retirement. If you make six figures, you can max out your 401k contributions and thereby avoid paying $1000s in income taxes each year. People who are able to contribute that much also tend to get way more money back in retirement compared to a pension because – when properly funded – a 401k is technically more efficient in the long-term for those who already have the requisite resources to weather a medium-term financial hardship.
The world just makes me sadder and sadder. There’s just no real good news any more, only bad :-(
Well, if it’s any consolation… this particular bad idea has been around long enough that it’s no longer newsworthy
The one place where 401ks really shine is (legal) tax evasion and high-spend retirement.
One big place where 401ks are better for the modern workforce is portability, because the investments in the 401k are vested property of the worker, so the worker gets to bring that retirement with them even when changing jobs. Under the traditional pension programs, people who left the employer for another job would often be leaving behind a lot of pension benefits, and be behind at the new employer’s pension plan.
I mean even a lot of pension funds are kept in investments rather than some scrooge mcduck money tower. Unless you’re just entirely opposed to managed investments as a whole, a 401k is no less risky than a pension in terms of potential for loss, but it does come with the added benefit of being able to personally direct how it’s invested rather than just sitting back and praying that someone else doesn’t mismanage it. Your 401k is yours, and yours alone.
It’s a way for companies to act like they’re helping you retire instead of providing a pension.
Can’t tell if sarcasm. It’s a retirement plan that employers will match up until a certain point, In lieu of the pension plans previous generations were offered.
No, I was being genuine. We have compulsory superannuation here in Aus. Employers pay in an amount equal to 11% of your wages, it goes up to 12% in 2025. It applies to every wage earner, full-time, part-time, contract and casuals.
Wow, that’s great. We only get like 3-4% on average, and that requires us to put in 6-8%
But WDC is down almost 10% in the last 10 days
Good point. I was looking from when this problem was first discovered vs when this news hit as you did.
Yep, and shame on clickbaity tech “news” websites for churning out “awesome deals on SanDisk SSDs!” articles with no mention of the failures.
It took my sleep deprived brain far too long (less than a second, but still) to realise this wasn’t a genuine name change.
Same. The stupid capitalisation of nouns doesn’t help.
I grew up with title case being a thing ☹️
I’m almost certain this article is written by an AI
There’s no way this article wasn’t written by AI, the formatting is so weird.
Is this article written by AI?!
Play the primus song
Kingston is Winona’s Big Brown Beaver
Western digital is Jerry the racecar driver
🎶 But call me Aloysius Devadander Abercrombie
That’s long for Mud
No, MY name is Mud- oh, wait, yeah, carry on.
But call me Aloysius Devadander Abercrombie
They were acquired by Western Digital in 2016, so why not point at WD?
Literally? Are they pulling an Elon?
For those unfamiliar, the phrase “one’s name is mud” means that a person, or in this case a brand, is widely unpopular due to disgrace or scandal>
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No, no, pulling an Elon is buying a functioning company for over the market price then doing everything you can to drive it into the ground.
I know, hence the “literally” (It was joke, see?)
Ah, so the answer is “yes” then.
Someone really needs to have a talk with their marketing department.
So what’s a better quality option?
So far I only bought Samsung SSDs
for internal use and expanded that to Crucial as well.Only heard good things about Sabrent, Kioxia and Samsung so far and not much bad.
Samsung consumer SSD have a well-earned black mark on their reputation as of late.
seconding this
For memory Samsung all day. Micro/SD cards etc the big camera manufacturers source solid stuff if you aren’t a fan of Samsung.
If you’re talking about readers I don’t think anyone does anything particularly well. Anker might be my preferred brand though. Lots of companies rip them off.
How are Samsung’s SSD?
I am looking to buy one external drive of 2 TB for Backup of my multi-media collection and 1 M.2 SSD for my laptop upgrades.
If someone can even specify the model that’s known to be good would really be helpful.
I’ve been using their evos for awhile and they’re solid.
Well, every SSD is [S]olid.
Goddamnit lol
Get out.
Yeah Sammy still makes some of the best drives in the industry. However, the company is pretty scummy. So keep that in mind if customer support is important to you. Also bear in mind, they offer no warranty service from Canada, you will be sent to the US centre and from there, it’s all uphill as they will cite region conflicts, etc. RMA will be hit and miss.
Basically manufacturers now are cutting DRAM from their offerings which means most drives can’t handle large files as that I’ll overflow their paltry buffers and your speeds will plummet to that of a USB drive. WD SN770, Crucial P3, Kingston NV2, all omit DRAM. In fact, most of the cheaper offerings cut the feature on their drives.
As a general rule, I look at DRAM first, then cell type (try to avoid QLC over TLC), controller type can be important if you have specific needs (I purchased a m.2 to CDEF adapter for my Xbox and it only supports drives with a specific controller), and then warranty and product support.
In all honesty, this is not a bad list to get you started (not sure I’d put the 990 first, but it’s not crazy either): https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-ssds,3891.html
Thanks for the info and the details.
I had watched a video some years ago of LTT about DRAM-less SSD and had been actively avoiding them since then. Will surely keep these details in mind.
Waiting for a Primus fan to make the joke
Primus sucks!
This explains the SanDisk sale on newegg
