• ivanafterall ☑️@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    If you wanted to kill a bunch of Americans for some reason, without all the sticky issues around murder and the like, you’d be hard-pressed to come up with better than these past couple of months.

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      what’s hilarious is, if you read the actual study from '94, that suggested there might be a link… a middleschool-level of science is needed to refute it.

      Remember, correlation is not causation, and that’s all they really had. worse, they looked at 12 kids and zoomed in on the MMR vaccine. Which was incredibly common. Pretty much everyone between like the fifties or sixties until the 90’s had vaccines.

      if correlation is causation, and 12 kids is enough to establish correlation… then have more to consider there. I presume they were all, you know, wearing clothes, for example. Or shoes. Or had hair. They all probably spent time outside, too, in the sunlight. They all probably slept at night. OOO I know. They all probably ate food. and drank water, and not-water-stuffs. PB&J sandwiches.

      edit to add: pluto was discovered the same year the diagnostic rules for autism were established, too. so pluto, the planet, causes autism.

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        edit to add: pluto was discovered the same year the diagnostic rules for autism were established, too. so pluto, the planet, causes autism.

        So autistic people are from Pluto? Illegal aliens? Pluto is covered with ICE, that must be how they got here. Deported.

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          Yes it is, and I have the solar quest board game board to prove it.

          Also, I will fight you. Nobody does Pluto dirty like that.

          (For the record, the reclassified it to “dwarf planet” so it’s still a planet. I also understand why they did, but they could have made an exception…. Maybe even turn it into a “fun fact” lesson. Instead… they chose violence.)

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      Just maybe all the deaths eventually will make people turn on them. Unlikely, but who knows.

      If we ever get a non republican back it will probably hit a boiling point right then.

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        It didn’t seem to change their mind with COVID deaths. They just blamed something else killed them

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    According to the website, Dr. Edwards opened the clinic when “a divine appointment in 2011 opened his eyes to the fact that US medical schools only teach a very narrow way of disease and symptom management with pharmaceuticals instead of disease and symptom resolution by addressing root causes.”

    doesn’t get more “root cause” than stopping a viral infection in its tracks with an effective vaccine. jfc.

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      Dr. Edwards opened the clinic when “a divine appointment in 2011 opened his eyes to the fact that US medical schools only teach a very narrow way of disease and symptom management with pharmaceuticals instead of disease and symptom resolution by addressing root causes.”

      The rallying cry of homeopaths everywere… 🤷‍♂️ 🙄

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        Edit: other lemmers have educated me. Thanks for sharing your opinions and knowledge. Homeopathy <> holistic. Homeopathy is a stupid pseudoscience scam. Holistic is good. Original comment below being retained for context.

        I hate how binary it is. A homeopathic or holistic view of a healthy lifestyle and body doesn’t mean someone can’t also accept some of the modern miracles of medical science, like providing weapons-grade intel about a deadly pathogen to your body’s chief defensive forces without forcing it to fight that foe to the death in a cage match. I’m all for integrating herbs in my diet and…idk, binaural therapy and soft lighting and whatever (not crystals, except for lookin’ and touchin’ because they’re just neat and pretty), but those are just nice maintenance in day to day existence. If there’s a low risk way to clue in my T and B cells without feeling like shit, possibly sickening others, and maybe even dying or being scarred/deformed, then sign me up!

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          If we’re talking about medicine, then you don’t get to pick and choose between actual effective medicine and your homeopathic snake oil. The stuff that you’re talking about, it just doesn’t work, and those vaccines that we’ve had for decades and longer, depending on the disease, they actually do work.

          But if you want to buy some incense and soft lighting because it makes you feel better, maybe because it’s a placebo effect, then you can certainly do that. It’s your money and if you choose to spend it on snake oil then that’s your business. And if your justification is that maybe it might work even though there’s no solid evidence, that sounds a lot like Pascal’s Wager, but still, it’s your money to spend.

          Just be careful that you are aware of the difference between the two.

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            Guess I’m pretty ignorant about homeopathy. I was just thinking about it as incorporating a bunch of adaptogenic herbs in teas and dietary supplements and maybe some harmless habitat adjustments. I don’t know much beyond that, but was trying to figure out how mutually exclusive the two approaches toward healing really were. I wasn’t advocating for homeopathy, but trying to pose an argument that a homeopathic person might still be able to embrace pharmacological methods as well.

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          but those are just nice maintenance in day to day existence

          They do nothing and are a waste of money. That’s not “maintenance” , that’s a “scam”.

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            I’ve not looked into binaural therapy and its efficacy. Same for soft-lighting, although I hear a lot about sleep disruption at night from screens.

            I think it very much depends on the herbs we are talking about, though? As well as the amount taken, and so on. Suppose we are talking about curcumin, if that counts? Or green tea? Or garlic?

            Like the poster was saying though - none of this would supplant modern findings, and I agree. I keep seeing various headlines about medicine and vaccines targeting certain cancers, or where they were able to have cancerous cells turned into normal cells. I would certainly hope that someone suffering from cancer would opt for breakthroughs like those vs. whatever homeopathic routes are offered up. Same goes for something like measles - get vaxxed if you haven’t been and get your kids vaxxed. Easy as pie.

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    So let me get this straight: He’s against vaccines, but in favor of administering steroids to children? Okay, relax Satan.

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      Well, TBF, when it comes to steroids and children - they are prescribed at times by doctors.

      Although given that it’s RFK jr we are talking about here and the fact that he has zero training in any of this and is most definitely not a doctor…all of this is highly sus.

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    2 months ago

    “I am very grateful we live in a community where we can let our children die from a totally preventable disease”