Same with arson
What’s the Venn Diagram of “childhood pyromaniacs” and “Linux users” look like?
It’s just 1 circle with both labels in it.
You ever seen a really bad hemorrhoid?
Ok. Thank you. That’s enough internet for today.
God damn, dude! (☝︎ ՞ਊ ՞)☝︎
I only mean to say that the diagram would be one circle packed tightly inside a slightly larger one.
Hmm. Sounds like the Orange Orangutan fucking up the government: a hemorrhoid inside a hemorrhoid. 😎
Boom! Gottem.
Too fuckin real.
Can confirm. Made many sparkler/aerosol can boom.booms
See, this is why you Linux users have a bad rep.
/s
And the less you use Windows, the worse you get at using it. Luckily the bar for Windows competency is pretty low, just basic critical thinking skills and Google get you far.
You can make that point for any operating system, basic critical thinking could mean anything
You could but you’d be drawing a false equivalency.
I got an equivalency for ya
Pb(s)+2 HCl(aq)→PbCl2(s)+H2(g)
Honestly, potentially the more you use Windows the worse you get at it. You come to accept the garbage, but the more you try to fix it the more it fights you and the less stable it becomes. A user who just doesn’t touch anything is probably better off.
Windows I just got used to my issues and didn’t try to fix them if I couldn’t find similar issues online, with linux ill actually check for the issue and usually find and fix it (with the help of the internet, but the initial phase of finding what I need to search and what the issue is, I do better on linux)
/triggered/
Oh hell no. My basic critical thinking applied to googling has got me to a forum with the solution to wi-fi not working in the form of “meh, it happens. reser all network settings and reboot”. Which became my personal turning point of “fuck this shit, I’d rather have actually debuggable software”
/cooled down/
Well, your point read as “look at the problem, search for solutions and you probably will find them” stands, it is the low competency bar that triggered me: to even know where crash logs etc might be on Windows is far beyond even “power user” level
What? It’s easy to find a solution to WiFi problems, come on.
Usually, sure, but mine was just that. It helped, so kind of solution anyway
basic critical thinking skills
My great-aunt would like a word with you.
I’m sure this will draw some criticism but I’ve found duck.ai to be extremely helpful in troubleshooting minor issues with my Linux mint installation and recently with accessing and understanding SMART hard drive diagnostic data. It’s very helpful in figuring out which commands could be useful in the terminal and in understanding exactly what each terminal command is doing. Of course finding answers in forums and manuals is still relevant and important but as a beginner, this has been a fast and easy way to get advice.
Just be careful to think twice before doing what it says. (That goes for any advice from the internet too!)
Like all the old stories of people’s GPS steering them into a lake. Let the GPS help you, but still, like, actually look at the road!
ETA: It’s probably quite reliable at explaining what terminal commands do, since it’s drawing from many manuals. But sometimes it might completely make up the answer, in a way that’s almost right but terribly wrong. You think the command does one thing, so you use it ‘appropriately’, but really it does something else so your carefully thought out use goes completely wrong.
That makes sense. It cuts through the RTFM bullshit, and gets you a clear answer without unnecessary ego.
Good point. I don’t know why I didn’t think about this sooner, i literally use it for other programming stuff.
Over the years of using Windows (2010-2023), I don’t remember learning anything at all, only using the command line twice, once to check the hard disk and once to clean the registry… I’m in love with Linux terminal.
Did you not learn anything because you simply did not need to, perhaps? Because you can do a lot if you need to.
I guess so.
My gosh if it was easier I would have done so much with Windows before switching to Linux. Instead I was stuck with bad performance and annoying pop ups from my device manufacturer.
What popups? Am I doing something wrong/right that I do not get those? What could you not do but now can?
HP had a thing that popped up in my task bar that in order to hide I had open their preinstalled software that didn’t work.
Also less common were the Microsoft account things after updates and other Microsoft fullscreen things that caused serious difficulties as they wouldn’t even render right in some cases (I got something telling me to install windows 11 which wasn’t even possible for some reason and the close button was off screen, that happened the last time I used that computer after not having touched it for a couple of weeks).
Edit: Things I couldn’t do but can do now that I use Linux and learned how to:
- bind my own system key combinations
- select the right (GPU) driver version (though the newest has been fine for months now)
- use a launcher that doesn’t open bing in ms edge when I spell something wrong and just generally is quicker.
Over the years of using Windows (2010-2023)
I switched to Linux full time in 2011 👴. Was fed up with Windows 7’s bullshit.
But I must say, I leaned a tone while I was using Windows XP,. This is during this time I would build my first PCs, setup local network at home and for LAN parties, setup file sharing and damn printers 🤬, start to learn programming.
it’s a good os. on the other hand everytime i learned anything in windows it would get invalidated by new ux and new bugs…
You’ll get to the point where you can’t use windows anymore XD
I’m about at that point. I had to set up a Windows VM last year to do some testing. It was more of a struggle to install than I expected.
I stopped using it regularly several years ago, then I come back to help someone install it and it took me more time than I want to admit to figure out how to make a local account that wasn’t attached to a Microsoft cloud account.
Joke’s on me, I still have to use windows at work!
Nah, even a kid can handle Windows. But after becoming a Linux user, I don’t even want to look at Windows, that’s for sure.
A young enough kid can handle just about anything put in front of them at the same rate. When you are learning from zero there isn’t a ton of difference.
I mean early 2000s? Oh windows easier 100%. But today? Both are easy im different ways and to a child just starting out on computer it won’t matter
If you are the “computer person” in your family, you probably have experience screwing with, breaking, and fixing whatever OSes you have used over the years.
The refreshing difference with Linux is that the software and the people who created it are not trying to prevent you from doing what you want with your computer.
Do you guys also keep a notepad file on your desktop with all the usual commands and shortcuts on it? I can’t imagine remembering them all otherwise… and I kind of cringe at the non stop DDG ing I have to do to do some basic liux stuff.
I use obsidian to make notes of how to install and setup applications from a fresh install, for example to install mariadb-libs when I install digikam so that I can use the mariadb database on my nas, and the way to mount my nas shares in fstab
Try a different shell, like fish or zsh, maybe. Something with really intense command auto-completion and history.
I personally use fish, it is amazing for this kind of thing.
ETA: also read up on rc files for whatever shell you are using. Creating aliases and functions based on what you do all the time is essential IMO.
I press up key in terminal to find my commands, as for shortcuts I only use a few so I already remembered all of them
I’m using my companies’ mediawiki personal user page to keep snippets and one liners that took me some time to cobble together. I export that regularly to a personal device, so, yes. I’ve found that I never look at it because once I’ve hammered something together I usually got the concept so next time it takes me a fraction of the time.
Sometimes I’m searching for a recipe to some obscure Linux tool and finding my own answers on Stackoverflow from ten years ago.
Just go up arrow til you dont need to anymore lol, i sometimes keep a sticky note, wish gnome had a sticky note in the topbar extension
Doesn’t gnome have that sticky app?
I ctrl-r my history and set the histsize to some ludicrous value
History is documentation enough.
I’ve got things that need to run periodically set up in crontab, and create menu launchers for things that I run as needed.
Yup
No never even crossed my mind but ig I was also in a competition for Linux that required me to memorize basically every single command and option
Which is bullshit tbh, which in turn is why I don’t like LPIC. Even RedHat exams give you VMs with full manpages. Know concepts and know what to expect from which tool, everything else is wasted resources.
No. Stuff I use more than once I just put in a shell file. I don’t really run much on the terminal besides those files and using it to update my system.
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This is why you have to switch to more and more difficult distros over time, to keep yourself on your toes
It’s a bell curve. Eventually you switch back to ez mode for your main machine and have alternative or niche distros on spare kit
Can confirm. Study laptops are on Linux Mint Debian Edition, gaming PC is on CachyOS currently but it changes all the time, had Bazzite on it beforehand
Ken Thompson, who invented UNIX first in assembly and then rewrote it in C, is now running a Debian derived OS as his main daily driver.
Me going from Mint to Ubuntu to Kubuntu to Neon to Arch. My experience with the Arch installation process is just the command
shutdownSomeday I’ll be comfortable enough with this nerd shit to trust myself with unsupervised access to a CLI. Until then I’m happy just knowing what a DE is
But I use Linux all the time and am still horrible at it!
Fr, GitHub may as well be written in wingdings
Thank Linus for nerds that write proper readmes
Wow, in that way it’s almost like Linux is the same as every other thing.
You can actually go through the motions for years and learn nothing if the software allows for it.
Meanwhile, when, as a little more than a basic user, I look at my system, feeling as if I’m dealing with a dumpster fire just to have that nagging recurrent insight: “I actually have a brain and can learn!”
I’m still gonna have to dual boot for the foreseeable future, but I force myself to usually boot mint unless I want to play any vr/multiplayer/racing games (which is often, unfortunately). But I do really enjoy how much you can do in linux and learning it.
