• Urbanfox@lemmy.world
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    Yes, but it’s difficult to access. You need to want to get the care and actively campaign to be referred.

    And that’s the “easy” things like anxiety or garden variety depression.

    As soon as it gets complicated it’s a whole other story.

    If she never tried to seek it out, then it doesn’t even matter as it appears she didn’t give off any “I murder babies” vibes to the extent that the investigation was delayed beyond a reasonable length of time because she was not suspected of such a thing.

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      Not to mention, if she was diagnosed with something severe, she would probably lose her job if not her entire career. A lot of people avoid seeking help for that reason.

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          Easy to say from where we sit. Harder when that job is what’s keeping a roof over your head and food on your table.

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            Right, but she was compulsively murdering babies in the hospital. Can we all agree that she shouldn’t have had a job as a nurse in a NICU? That doesn’t feel like a statement with room for debate.

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            So a baby murderer should have been allowed to keep her job and continue to put innocent lives in danger because you 1) baselessly think she’s mentally ill, and 2) think that a condition as extreme as you’re implying shouldn’t be regarded with consequence.

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          Ok, but she shouldn’t have had her job.

          Of course not, but that’s not looking at it from the perspective of her mental illness.

          From her point of view, keeping her job was likely a high priority.

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        So weird that private medical info is only like sorta private except if they wanna use it

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          I mean, on the one hand I agree.

          On the other hand, if you dream of murdering babies or crashing planes, perhaps the hospital or airline you work for should be informed.

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            Real talk though, you can’t punish thought crimes.

            Who TF dreams of crashing planes that does not fly planes? The incidence of plane-crash-dreamers is most certainly highly concentrated amongst pilots.

            As are those who dream of killing babies concentrated around those who spend time around them.

            Most of us use our brains to filter out things that we don’t want to come to actualization. But the bad thoughts are in there. 94% of us will experience intrusive thoughts at some point in our lives. All to jail?

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              And yet you think people should have their guns taken away for their thoughts or their words, so what makes you think you’re any better?

              But the bad thoughts are in there. 94% of us will experience intrusive thoughts at some point in our lives. All to jail?

              Imagine treating intrusive thoughts and killing babies as somehow equivalent. And that psychologists aren’t trained to know the difference and who to flag, and who not to. At least that’s what you’d say when pushing for red flag laws.

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            Or like get it solved before it becomes a problem? And have a professional medical opinion reccomend if you should work somewhere to not based on a risk assessment, not just a blanket statement

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              Ok, but the alternative is knowing a nurse directly in charge of infants wants to murder them and still letting her go into work. You’re basically an accomplice at that point.

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        Isn’t there protections for that though? That may fall under some medical status protection. Also when diagnosed you also get medicine which may help your brain balance.

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        Not the right time. Not the right place.

        This woman murdered a lot of babies. Your comment is wildly inappropriate.

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      It’s so hard, because those families have it so amazingly awful but I can’t imagine her being a sane person and doing what she did. She shouldn’t be on the street and she needed help a long time ago.

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        You may have had a different experience than I had, but in my local authority area, access beyond your GP is very difficult. The list is so long they try to avoid referrals, and if you’re unwell the ability to advocate for yourself is diminished.

        Some would rather chuck a Prozac at you and hope that’ll fix it.