The plan would replace the $600 million in subsidies Denmark gives the island each year

The Donald Trump administration is reportedly considering giving about $10,000 to each Greenland resident as part of its plan to annex the island.

The possibility would seek to replace the $600 million Denmark gives the territory in subsidies every year, and has stopped being mere rhetoric to become official U.S. policy, according to The New York Times.

The outlet detailed that the plan already includes several cabinet departments and that the White House’s National Security Council has met several times to advance on it, recently sending specific instructions to different offices.

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    The fuck?! As if Kalaaliit culture is worth only 10K to each person. US can get stuffed. Culture is priceless.

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      If it makes you feel any better, America doesn’t care about their culture and only wants their natural resources and strategic location. Oh wait, that probably won’t make you feel better.

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        The culture will be immediately outlawed, too woke. What you’re confusing for culture is actually South American gang activity.

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      Think about all the fucking starbucks you can buy with $10k! That’s like a coffee and bagel everyday for a year. Fucking startbucks man! C’mon it’ll be great

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      Right? I’m American and even I wouldn’t take that deal. Mind you I’d take the money, but then if you want me off my land you’re going to have to have a conversation with Mr. Glock.

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          Nice. I just have a G19gen4, a heavily-customized AR15 that a gunsmith friend built and tuned specifically for me, and a Saiga 12g (with the crazy Latvian slugs that shoot through engine blocks.) I feel like they cover all the bases. ;)

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    Typical out of touch rich boomer thinking. That anyone can be bought. That everything is a matter of cost.

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    Why so stingy? The Greenland population is about 56,000. You could offer every Greenlander a million dollars, and it would only come to $56 billion, still a bargain in the grand scheme of things. If you actually want to buy someone’s country out from under them, that’s the kind of money you need to be talking about.

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      And, at this rate, definitely not denominated in USD… In between ink drying, and checks paid, it would likely be worth half as much at the rate we are going.

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      This is the same government that brought us the Louisiana Purchase and Seward’s Folly, both of which were really cheap land grabs. They just need to find a quasi-official way for someone to accept the terms and then execute the terms by force. The $10,000 agreement is their legal shield for taking the land by force.

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        It’s not the same government though. The Alaska purchase was in 1867. The US has an entirely different kind of government than it did back then. And we’re in an entirely different historical era. You can’t just blindly assume what worked in 1867 is going to work or be remotely applicable in 2025.

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          Oh, jesus. Of course it’s not the exact same government, but it’s America and America is comprised of people and people are fundamentally the same as they were 200 years ago. Ignoring that, this will work because if anything Land Grabs are waaay more common now than they were back then.

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            Land grabs are more common now than in the 19th century? That’s just completely false. That was the age of Manifest Destiny and overt colonization by European powers. Conflicts like Russia’s invasion of Ukraine are so notable because they are so rare in the modern era. Today, global powers are more about economic influence, trading relationships, and economic spheres of influence. Turns out it’s a lot cheaper and more efficient to just trade with people than to pay for the huge expense of maintaining an old-fashioned colonial empire. Look at China. They’re expanding their influence through their Belt and Road Initiative, not through outright conquest and imperial subjugation. Or look at the US trade and influence machines it built after WW2 like the WTO, the World Bank, etc. It is very very rare for the great powers to outright seize land anymore. The US doesn’t need to conquer Congo and become responsible for its people in order to gain access to its resources. It can just cut a check for them.

            And no, it really isn’t the same government. The federal government in 2025 has an entirely different relationship with the US population than it did in 1867. Hell, the entire way the US conducts military and diplomatic policy changed after WW2 and the dawn of the atomic era. The US hasn’t formally declared war on anyone since WW2, when previously it was the norm for every conflict. Programs like Social Security or policies like anti-drug laws would have been unfathomable to a US citizen in 1867.

            And if you want to say it’s the same people, it really isn’t. We’re not the same people we were then, culturally or genetically. Even just ethnically, we’ve had so many waves of immigrants that our ethnic admixtures have completely changed. That’s to say nothing of how much our norms and culture have fundamentally shifted. Try explaining gender nonbinary people to someone from 1867.

            Look, I get it. It’s tempting to adopt the old world-weary saying that nothing is new under the Sun, but I don’t see how one can possibly look at the monumental changes in global technology, history, and culture over the last century and a half and conclude that things are basically the same. If nothing else, the introduction of nuclear weapons fundamentally changed the way the great powers manage their affairs.

            Yes, you can be incredibly pedantic and say that, “well, human nature is the same, so fundamentally nothing has changed.” But at that point you might as well be arguing that the US and ancient Babylon are the same country.

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              That’s a really scary wall of text without a single citation or hard fact. You went to a lot of effort just to say you’re really not informed on this matter at all.

              I’ll point you to the work the Land Deal Politics Initiative has done over the past decade. Or even just do a simple Google search “are land grabs more common now”. Simple stuff.

              Good day, sir.

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                  You’re the fool if you think I can’t be both.

                  Trump hasn’t hasn’t had a unique thought in his entire life, where do you think he got the the idea? These kinds of land grabs happen often, you just don’t pay attention because it is mostly people of color being taken advantage of. Now it’s white Europeans and you’re all like “it will never happen here”.

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    Fuck you revolting jackass. How’s about you spend 10k per person on healthcare and housing subsidies.

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    Would that even pay for the first year of medical insurance that you will need?

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    “America First!” -> garbage $600,000,000 bribe to Greenland citizens

    [edit: whoops, you’re right, I left off three 0s]

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      600k? You dropped some zeros there. It’s $600,000,000.

      He’d have to go a lot higher than 10k p.p. to even make them consider it, so that’d be billions. Luckily he has millions of tax payers who can fund his little obsession!

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        If he doesn’t actually know how much a hamberder costs any amount above the cup of covfefe is just as imaginary. Don’t know why everyone’s so upset about the value of the currency dropping, just release a meme coin and sell it all off.

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      “The party of small government”. Tries to gobble up neighbours and allies.

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    $1m would be insulting.
    $10k is beyond insulting. That’s probably one the cheapest entry fees to one of his disgusting Mar-a-Lago fundraisers.
    Trump really has a knack for insulting people. He’s basically saying “You’re worth a fifth of a Tesla car”. How cheap can you be…

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      1This demonstrates how he thinks - He’s obviously getting paid by Putin to destroy America, so he thinks everybody else is just like him. Offer enough money, and theyll sell out their country, too. He has no conception of patriotism or loyalty to his country.

      I’d promise him anything he wants, take his money (after jacking it up to a million bucks), then immediately betray him. Everybody in his country should do that. Whats he going to do, sue me for not being a traitor? He can go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut.

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        I got cold-called by one of those “We’ll buy your house!” scam outfits one time asking if I was interested in selling my modest single-story, two bedroom / one bathroom house.

        Me: Not really!

        Them: Well, if you were going to, what price would you hope to get?

        Me: You know what, let’s say five million dollars.

        Them: Uh… is this the house at [my address]?

        Me: Sure is!

        Them: And… five million? You’re firm on that?

        Me: Well, anything is negotiable, of course. I’ve got to go now, bye!

        And I just really hope that I wasted a little bit more of their time that day, but if someone were to make a horrible paperwork error and accidentally offer me five million dollars for a house worth a fraction of that, that’s really on them, I’d say.

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      How about if he threw in the Tesla’s with poor quality and no craftsmanship? Y’know to boost all those American manufacturing jobs, and the mechanics, and Elon’s tax subsidized billions.

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        Even for free I honestly don’t think I could do it. And I live in California where fucking everyone has a Tesla. I’d sell it if I thought I could I guess.

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    US should pay at least 5 million to each person. That is how much Trump is selling his gold card visa anyway.

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    And…then?

    1. Greenland still belongs to Denmark even if you give 99999999 gazillion to each Greenlander

    2. I don’t think anyone in Greenland is dumb enough to sell out their country for 10k to then live in a country where you will pay out of your ass in taxes, handing those 10k right back to the IRS in 5 years tops.

    3. Greenlanders would have to call themselves “Americans” henceforth, which is considered an insult and lower class of civilization world-wide.

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      1. If Denmark doesn’t recognize Greenland’s self-determination then they are hypocrites.
      2. Maybe maybe not. He could also give them way more. There arent a lot of people there.
      3. Being an American means you don’t care what the rest of the world thinks about you so this point is moot.
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        I guess if the people of Greenland accept a measly 10k soon to be worthless USD in exchange to join a dying empire, they deserve to be part of that empire. Maybe Trump is actually smart and this is a hidden IQ test.

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          I had a feeling he would try something like this. If you only need to convince 57 thousand people, throwing money at them is a very real option. But I never imagined he would go so cheap. 2 million dollars for every man woman and child would only cost the USA 120 billion dollars. Not a bad price for Greenland. 10k is a fucking insult.

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            Even at 2 million that wouldn’t really be enough money to be above all the shitty laws the US inflicts on its own citizens.

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        Not sure why you’re being downvoted, you’re correct and this is likely what the current administration will do. Hell, if 10k isn’t enough they could up it to 100k since there are so few people in Greenland. Maybe even more.

        Denmark has stated that they will honor a referendum if it comes to that. That was before the US wanted to annex the territory but it’s still true.

        The US can and will try to simply buy Greenland and it’s fairly likely to succeed in my view.

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              That’s barely any worthwhile money. I think you really overestimate how much ten k means to people - especially when it means being sucked in by a failing capitalist system.

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                If you read my comment I said it will most likely be significantly more than that. If 100k isn’t life changing money to you then you should factor in your own privilege into this argument.

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    Take the money and tell him to fuck off. He’s a con artist. Have him lose at his own game.

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      If it was taken seriously, Trump would promise the million after annexing them. Then would never pay and say he did. (Also absolutely insane that this is even a conversation)

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    Ten thousand US dollar as personal money for leaving democracy and entering a dictatorship (or at least an autocracy)? Err…

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        Explain to me more about this $10k from denmark. Does denmark have some amount of UBI?

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          They run a large budget deficit each year which Denmark subsidises out of historical obligation, since they subjugated Greenland. Fair enough I say.

          Greenland is largely independent on internal policies and have their own laws, but still technically part of Denmark.

          This is my laymen’s explanation.

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            I think that’s pretty accurate

            My understanding is that these are government to government subsidies, not government to people subsidies. That’s quite different from what the usa is offering

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    I read someplace that theres about 17 trillion in minerals and oil in greenland. ~57000 population of greenland, so paying for just the mineral wealth not the land and other resources, he’d owe each inhabitant about 298 million. each. So he’s paying them 1 /30,000th of what he should be offering.

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      Whatever the actual net value is, it’s not that. There isn’t just a 17 trillion pile of minerals sitting somewhere on the surface.

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        Yeah Greenland is actually in a tough spot. It has a lot of economic potential, but it can’t unlock it without completely upending its own society. There are only 56,000 Greenlanders. If they wanted to expand mining enough to be economically self sufficient, they would need to bring in so many people that the existing population would become a minority. They would have to become an Arctic Dubai.

        This is also why they don’t want to be annexed by the US. (Even if the US still had sane leadership.) Once you’re part of the US, any American that wishes can move there. Any American company can set up shop there. The existing society would be completely overrun.

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          And it would be an ecological disaster.

          Not that the Trump administration nor mining corporations care about that, but it would suck for the Greenlanders and our planet.