Summary
Elon Musk rejected accusations of Nazi sympathies in a Fox News interview, calling it “outrageous” and blaming media propaganda.
Critics point to his straight-arm salute at Trump’s rally, endorsement of a German far-right party, and reinstating white supremacist accounts on X.
His cuts to federal agencies under DOGE have sparked protests and vandalism, including nicknaming Teslas “swasticars.”
Musk claims he’s targeted for character assassination and receives daily death threats. He and Lara Trump compared the attacks to those against Donald Trump, accusing mainstream media of spreading lies.
He’s a Nazi from Nazi family, fuck him
He’s just a Nazi boy from a Nazi family
Spare us a trial from this monstrosity
Sleazy Musk, sleazy DOGE, will he let X go?
The SMELL, bra, NO he will not let it go!
He will sieg heil, tho!
Ignoring the fact that he did what was probably the most vigorous Nazi salute in existence…
- He agreed with a post on Twitter that promoted the antisemetic conspiracy theory that Jewish people “push hatred” against white people
- He doubled down on the great replacement conspiracy theory
- He supports the AfD party which has not-so-subtle Nazi themes in official posters
- He actively created a safe space for Neo Nazis on his platform
- He threatened to sue researchers documenting the rise in hateful tweets
- After the inauguration “gesture”, instead of apologizing he made Nazi-related puns
- He shared a post absolving Hitler of murdering millions of people
It’s not just not outrageous to call him a Nazi, it’s a perfectly normal and reasonable thing to conclude especially when you consider his other behaviour and the kinds of things he supports
Supporting the AfD party, an openly neo-nazi party, and appearing in their events, days after the “roman salute” removed any kind of ambiguity that could exist. He’s a nazi, period. And the only good nazis are dead nazis.
The Roman salute excuse that many of his supporters promoted irks me because of how dishonest it is from the get go. There’s not a single Roman work of art that depicts the salute and it actually originated fairly recently under Mussolini’s National Fascist Party.
Additionally, the Nazis on 4chan et. al. had no problem recognizing the symbol for what it was. It was the pearl-clutching lib enablers who had trouble recognizing it
This post does not mean “voting is useless”, tankies fuck off
It wasn’t, a few years before Mussolini came to power a film came out depicting the Roman Empire, nothing political, but it was known to have inspired Mussolini’s character and public image, and was the first instance of what was known to be the “Roman salute” from which Mussolini borrowed as he was so inspired by the film, it was never historically used by Romans. Ordinary things made an amazing doc on Mussolini and his rise to power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhwx8z8mJc
Let’s look on the bright side. He is still reluctant to publicly acknowledge it, which means that even he knows it is a shameful thing to be. I would be more afraid if he said “Hell yeah, I am, what are you gonna do about it? Do you own a President like I do?”
Don’t give him ideas
I mean I guess this might be conspiracy territory (although at this point I feel he’s pretty much completely admitted as much through his whole “I am become meme” cringe persona) but I feel like it’s pretty clear he knew exactly what he was doing at the inauguration and just did it as a “lol watch what edgy thing I’m gonna do… and they won’t do a thing about it” and he was 8 billion percent right. Nobody did a damn thing.
Don’t say that on Lemmy. You’ll get a bunch of defensive milquetoast liberals demanding to hear know what YOU’VE done before you’re allowed to speak on the issue.
If it walks like a Nazi, and salutes like a Nazi, then it’s a fucking Nazi.
Like he can do more than 3 steps of Goose Step!
But he does talk like a nazi, except for replacing the “lazy jews/communists” with migrants/poors/democrats
Seigheiling nazi piece of shit
- re-instates white supremacists accounts on Twitter while also banning journalists accounts (so its clearly not a “free speech” excuse of for the re-instatements
- backs the aFD whose party leader has been fined multiple times for using Nazi slogans
- Musk personally performs two back-to-back Nazi salutes from a podium on national television in front of huge live audience
For someone claiming to not be a Nazi he sure does Nazi things.
He even publicly called the AFD “centrist”
If you genocide enough people I’m sure you’re views will be more centered amongst the remaining people.
Just gotta keep genociding until you get there.
Elon is a Cowardly Nazi Billionaire, which is somehow astronomically more pathetic than being just a Nazi, which is already one of the most pathetic things you can be…
straight-arm salute
It’s called a nazi salute. Don’t spread doubt on what it was. He did it twice in close succession. The only other reason for holding your arm up like that is when you explain how high Blondie, Hitler’s dog, could jump.
‘Nazi’ isn’t a preferable pronounce, it’s what you’re called when you act like a nazi, talk like a nazi and salute like a fucking nazi.
If not Nazi, why Sieg Heil-shaped? 🙄
On a completely unrelated topic, just look at Hitler sending his heart out to his people, how heartwarming.
damn, even the timing is accurate… it is like he has been practising since young.
I would like his heart to be cold and stilled.
No, no, he’s not a Nazi because he’s not from the Champagne wine region in France. He’s a Sparkling Authoritarian.
Elon Musk’s grandfather was critical of the Nazis for not being anti-semitic enough.
How is that even possible? I mean Nazis have got to be at the tippy top of the Jew-hating hierarchy, right?
Just because you’re the best at something doesn’t mean you should stop trying to improve.
he probably sees them sending them to concentration camp as not good enough, probably want immediate executions.
We didn’t know about Auschwitz until we liberated it and he was critical of them in the 30s.
It’s a good example of how right pull happens. Until you’re exterminating people, fascists won’t be happy and until then centrists won’t care.
Looks like a duck, acts like a duck, quacks like a duck, even rapes like a duck. Why is everyone calling me a duck?
Bro literally intentionally does a Nazi salute on TV and then whines when people say he’s a Nazi…
That’s because he doesn’t understand consequences
He’s starting to experience them at least.
No because in his deluded mind he believes he’s the target of harassment.
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Unfortunately I don’t think a lot of people in my country do…
Nazi works, but if he’d prefer something else, “technofascist” and “neo-feudalist” are both arguably even more accurate.
Or we could go a different way - “psychopathic douchebag” has a nice ring to it, or maybe “delusional fuckhead.”
He behaves like a Nazi so he’s a Nazi. And clearly calling him that is getting under his skin, so it’s working. I don’t think using a different word will have the same effect. Heck, he might even latch onto neo-feudalist thinking it’s cool or something.
Yeah, Nazi is too 1930’s. Technofascist, that’s what Elon Musk is.
interesting note: a flavor of techno fascism actually started in the 30s, it was called Technocracy, Inc.
The technocracy movement was a social movement active in the United States and Canada in the 1930s which favored technocracy as a system of government over representative democracy […] a California engineer, invented the word technocracy in 1919 to describe “the rule of the people made effective through the agency of their servants, the scientists and engineers”
here’s an article explaining how Musk, Thiel, and Andreessen (and other tech billionaires) have adopted a similar philosophy with the “Charter Cities” ancap utopianism they’re working to replace democracy with.
A 1930s movement wanted to merge the US, Canada and Greenland. Here’s why it has modern resonances
Huh, weird. From that article (I didn’t read the first link) it seems like that old movement wanted a techno-communism of sorts. No money, no markets, goods distributed according to need, etc. It does point out that the current administration wants to keep political control, unlike the old Technocracy, inc.
And really, I don’t see our current billionaires wanting any sort of wealth redistribution. They like it just like it is. Really interesting that a hundred year old idea is sort of resurfacing though.
That’s exactly what a Nazi would say
Calling the press propaganda was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying_press
“Lying press” (German: Lügenpresse, lit. ‘press of lies’ [ˈlyːɡn̩ˌpʁɛsə] ⓘ) is a pejorative and disparaging political epithet used largely for the printed press and the mass media at large.
The Nazis adopted the term for their propaganda against the Jewish, communist, and later the foreign press. In 1922 Adolf Hitler used the accusation of the “lying press” for the Marxist press.[citation needed] In the Mein Kampf chapter on war propaganda, he described what he saw as the extraordinary effect of enemy propaganda in the First World War. He criticized German propaganda as ineffective and called for ‘better’ propaganda, which, allegedly like that of the English, French or Americans, was to be oriented towards psychological effectiveness.[6] Accusations of “lying” against domestic journalism can be found in his speeches, for example against the “social democratic press”, Jewish liberals, etc.
Hermann Göring used the expression on 23 March 1933 in his speech during the debate on the Enabling Act of 1933 in the Reichstag.[8] In the same speech he denied attacks on Jewish shops and desecrations of synagogues and Jewish cemeteries.
In December 1937, Manfred Pechau summarized parts of his dissertation (“National Socialism and German Language”, Greifswald 1935) in the National Socialist monthly and listed synonyms for what he called “Jewish-Marxist lying press”, including “Jewish journals”.[9] The party’s official educational and speaker information material, published in 1938 by the Reich Propaganda Management of the NSDAP, includes comments on the anti-Semitic November pogroms in 1938 by foreign media as reactions of the “propaganda and lying press” which allegedly represented a new field of slander against the Reich.[10]
In several speeches by Joseph Goebbels from the first half of 1939, “Lügenpresse” is used to characterize the media abroad, especially in the future World War II opponents, the United States, France, and Great Britain.[11] At this point in time, the German domestic press had been “synchronized” (controlled) and a critical domestic press that the National Socialists referred to as the “Lügenpresse” no longer existed. The Nazi propaganda reacted to the false report of Max Schmeling’s death with an attack on the “foreign lying press”.[12] There were also variations in this terminology; the Völkischer Beobachter, for example, referred to the “emigrant and international lying press” to deny reports about the poor health of the imprisoned Carl von Ossietzky, [13] and in 1932, it rejected criticism of Rosenberg using the formula “Marxist lying press”.[14]
In 1942, Baldur von Schirach described the French journalist Geneviève Tabouis, who published reports on the expansion plans of National Socialism, as “the embodiment of this nifty lying press that was available to anyone who knew how to pay”; in the same context he claimed that “90 percent of all Paris newspapers” were under “Jewish influence” and that the newspaper editorial offices were staffed by “over 70 percent” Jews.[15]
The expression was also used in speeches at carnival events that were used to bolster the party.[16]
After the National Socialist Condor Legion bombed the city of Guernica during the Spanish Civil War and this led to appalled reactions in the world, General Franco’s propaganda accused the “Jewish lying press” of disinformation, claiming that this was a press maneuver by the Bolsheviks; this happened in harmony with the Nazi propaganda.[17][18]
In 1948, Walter Hagemann analyzed how the Nazi press used the accusation of the “lying press” against the foreign press. He observed that readers should be made aware of how vigilant and reliable German journalism and politics are on this point. The rejection of the Allied “horror reports” as products of the “Jewish journal” was part of this Nazi strategy.[19]
Yeah well that’s just from Wikipedia which is a lefty non source that anyone can edit!
-Republicans probably
