I disagree.
I think you’re wrong.
Well ackshually…
(they’re both wrong)
I disagree
OBJECTION!
OVERRULED!
“Then you are banned.” – Redditor Jannie
Then we agree to disagree
It’s not something you can agree or not, it’s a fact!
those are the people who no one irl talks to anymore because they impulsively take the opposing stance, regardless of how stupid that stance may be, any time anyone says anything
Yup and guess what they are way more vocal online since they can still have an audience there and this is one of the reasons social media sites are so skewed from representing generalizable opinions. It’s a contrarian incubator.
I play devil’s advocate in most friend-space conversations, it’s just who I am, I don’t do it disrespectfully (I hope) but it’s just the first thing my brain goes to.
sometimes it’s good to examine things from all angles; i’m mostly talking about people who will start arguing if you say “nice weather today”-- shit gets old quick
No they are not
I had a colleague like that, he was an electric engineer who was convinced that the Earth is flat and that vaccines are bad.
I know that guy he told me he knows of a colleague who was convinced that the earth is spherical and vaccines are great.
MAGA??
no they dont
That’s not an argument, that’s a contradiction!
This is abuse, arguments are down the hall.
BUT
source?
no… no!!! that’s impossible!!!
It’s called being contrarian, and it’s not just Reddit users. I have several family members like this.
Wow this guy really loves to disagree
I’d also argue it’s not necessarily a bad thing. If you’re talking shit be sure you’re able to back it up. I am naturally contrarian but in many cases it’s less about what I feel and more about taking the side of the voice that is missing.
Survivor bias aside, I’m not sure the UI doesn’t make this drive-by trolling worse. The reddit UI (hi Lemmy) is threaded but disjoint, and the excellent response to one tree of responses isn’t useful to or seen in another tree – and those trees will develop in parallel in almost every discussion.
I worry that quips and cheap takes stand out because they’re fast and block actual discussion more, so have that mock ‘finalising’ effect. Ending a discussion thread is not concluding it .
… and we all have that cousin whom no one invites anywhere because he’ll argue the shit out of something like a jackal worrying a carcass, until people just give up and let him wander smugly off to his little corner in contrarian triumph.
*whomst
There’s something quite funny about making a few replies to people on a topic, doing something else with your life for several hours, then logging back in to a shitstorm. I’ve done it unintentionally a few times.
We’ve all done that. One time I posted something and forgot about it. Came back next day and found the first person to comment completely derailed what I was saying by mischaracterizing it. And then all the replies were about the mischaracterization and there were no replies to the substance of what I actually said.
I can definitely sympathise with that.
I have a reddit coworker, he just disagrees and follows up with “fucking retard” while being blatantly wrong…i hope they fire the guy soon.
Unmanageable human being, impossible to learn anything to keep him from killing himself (my job is technically life threatening, if you’re too stupid to listen)
He also mamaged to call in sick for 2 weeks in his first 4 weeks of employment, i was surprised when they kept him on after that.
i was surprised when they kept him on after that.
Clearly did not learn anything from The Office Space. that’s management material and your future boss
I fear for it, honestly.
Luckily i’m already planning to leave. I haven’t found a good job within reach yet, it’ll come haha.
In breaking news; The sky is blue.
More at 4.
I came here for a good argument!
“This is Abuse.”
That skit has only gotten more and more relevant with the rise (and fall) of the internet.
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Apparently not since most of them stuck around. Fuck Reddit.
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No u.
Disagreement is a way to promote dialog.
No it isnt
on what planet do you exist on where everybody is 200% aligned lol
I agree
north korea?
Only if you are a tankie?
Do i need a /s ?
No sir!
It’s also a way to manufacture dissent and foster division.
Is it though? According to the book The Five Dysfunctions of a Team, conflict is a sign of a trusting team, and conflict is a necessity for that team to achieve commitment.
I can attempt to explain how it it’s unclear
This graphic is from the book:
Great, except teams still need consensus, otherwise they’re more of a mob.
Tell me anyone on the left trusts anyone period.
Wrong.
How to get rid of the last few human reddit users … and freedom of speech.
theres also Bots/ai arguing against other bots to sow dissent.
Thanks AI… Using tremendous amounts of energy and technology to tell us something that anyone paying attention would have already known
Trolling and disagreeing are not the same thing.
I am someone who “loves to disagree”, as in most of my engagement on lemmy is disagreeing. But that’s because I speak up when I feel like speaking up is needed, and when I feel like it’s needed is when what I believe is not being said.
In other news, water is wet.
No it’s not. You are.
