Originally it was going to be “over the last twenty years” but I decided to be more flexible.

A lot of discussions about how society has changed or how the world is different always circle around to smartphones, social media, “no one talks to each other in person, they’re on their phones always” and the like.

Outside of those topics, what else has changed, by your perception?

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      Sometimes I forget that smoking is a thing, and then (after sometimes a whole year) I see someone doing it, and I’m like, “woah, people still smoke.” It was everywhere when I was a kid—even inside restaurants.

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        It always surprises me that pot smoking is now worse. Don’t get me wrong: go ahead with your vice. But the world used to smell like an ash tray and now it smells like skunk. Realistically the world doesn’t stink as much, which is excellent, but that means pot smokers really stand out as annoying stink

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      And it’s not that hard either. I’m out with a new group of people and just ask “do you drink?” If I get a “no” we know not to push it and just continue on like normal. They still join in with all the conversation, we keep discussions around favorite drinks, alcohol, etc light to none and no one is offended or bothered.

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    From an American perspective, flying on an airplane sucks. 9/11/01 resulted in a whole bunch of security theatre at the airport and airlines have slowly whittled away whatever comfort or convience remained.

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      i got fed up enough that i decided i’m never flying again. if i can’t get there in time by driving, so sorry, i won’t be able to attend

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        Domestic flights should basically not be a thing. Trains should be the default option if you don’t have to cross an ocean.

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          Ahh yes, trade 6 hours for a 3 day, $400 train ride to NYC.

          Lmfao what a shit suggestion

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            With the current level of train infrastructure and service, I agree with you. That is why domestics flights are a thing. But trains would be a much better choice if rail wasn’t actively defunded and sabotaged for the last 70 years or so.

            Its this lack of imagination of what could be (and already exists around the world) that makes everyone laugh at Americans.

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              Even with high speed rail you’re looking at 30+ hours from Seattle to NYC. And that’s optimistic, ignoring the numerous alpine mountains. No thanks.

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                Why do people always go here?

                • Fine: coast to coast, north to south should have flights. However almost all domestic flights are shorter and most of those are between city pairs where rail could be more efficient.
                • Fine: keep your bush pilots and feeder airlines, but 80% of the population is in metro areas.
                • high speed rail advocates generally speak in terms of population density and distance for choosing the right option: generally city pairs less than 500 miles apart can be more efficiently served by rail. That’s most cities in the US, and metro areas are 80% the population

                We don’t need to argue about it not being absolute,if you can recognized the predominant needs

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          Uhh, I’m gonna disagree with this. My family is 1700 miles away, without high speed rail I’m not doing that trip if there aren’t flights. It’s still a long ass trip by high speed rail. I might be willing to do that trip on regular rail if corporations didn’t fuck it up for passengers and if it was direct, very few stops, and activities were available on board. That’s a long ass time to be travelling on the ground.

          For the Europeans out there, that’s like going from Paris to Kyiv, and I’m not even crossing the whole country.

          I do agree that there should be rail between large cities, distances under 400 miles should be able to be done by rail.

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        I’m close. I only fly to see family and drive everywhere else. If I can’t complete the vacation without driving I’m just not doing it.

        It’s weird because flights are cheaper but then I don’t have a vehicle where I land and most of the places I want to go I need a vehicle. I’m not much of a city boy.

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      You used to get proper meals even if it was a crazy short flight. Now it’s like $6 bag of cheese it.

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      Why specify the year? Everyone knows what 9/11 is, it’s not going to get confused with another 9/11.

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        Because over time people will forget the year. Like many hear July 4th and couldn’t tell you it is for 1776. People get lazy, and knowing the year gives a nice reference for time and how it has gone by.

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    When I was in high school, gay was the generic negative word. If Wendys gave you a medium fry when you ordered a large - gay. If your homie cancelled plans last minute - gay. If you slipped on the stairs and busted your ass - gay. It’s bizarre in hindsight.

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      Same. “Gay Humor” was a thing when I was in middle-school/highschool, probably still a thing. If you act feminine as a guy, its “gay”. If you act too emotional over a girl, it’s “gay”. If you answer a question wrong, your a [R-Slur]. Everyone who you had a slight beef with is being a “bitch”, even the guys. Sometime the occational gay word equivalent that starts with “f”.

      Oh this is a blue city (in the US) btw. Circa 2015-2020

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        The way retard has changed over the years is wild to me. Cause around me there are large communities of people with mental and physical disabilities who aggressively try to tell people that they are infact retarded. It’s the word they grew up with and are fighting tooth and nail to keep it from turning into a slur. Even tho it’s been used as one against those very people for years.

        It’s such a weird thing to watch from the side line. Makes me wonder if this is what it was like during the rise of rap and the n word.

        Tho it’s also getting to the point there’s so many letter-slurs that it’s getting stupid. At some point feels like we are going to have to either just stop caring and accept that intentions matter more then the words them self. Else we are goanna run out of letters to describe slurs.

        Makes it very hard to have meaningful discourse around the topic. To be fair the fear of bans, and punishment for even saying some words regardless of context or topic also just makes it very iffy to talk about this topic in many places.

        Hell iv seen people banned on etymology fourms and subs because someone said a “letter” slur with in the context of explaining the origin of the word. It’s crazy what the internet has become recently.

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          Yea that one got me by surprise. Not sure when it changed, but a few years back a friend told me I offended someone by using it.

          I was confused - stopped using it though.

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    We used to take for granted that everybody agreed Nazis and Russians were bad.

    Nothing against Russians suffering under Putin’s boot. We have a whole new sympathy for you now.

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    Hats, almost completely removed from formal settings and now only in informal settings.

    People have a much more rigid and accurate sense of time. You don’t meet for lunch, you meet at 12pm on the dot. People don’t wait for someone for half an hour, they wait like 5 minutes or so.

    People talk much more openly about problems and their views. When I was young people didn’t really talk about religion, politics, medical issues, and so on in public. Now people will tell you they are on an antidepressant or LGBT+ and be open about things.

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      That rigid sense of time brings back memories. As a kid you’d have to wait on some corner to meet with friends and go out. Without smartphones there was no way of knowing where they were or what time they’d show up. If they were late you had to simply wait for them to show up or at some point decide to leave. All without being able to communicate anything. So everybody was a bit more flexible and relaxed about waiting on eachother.

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        A very popular show that everyone would watch live as it aired the first time. Then you could talk about it with everyone for a week because everyone is on the same episode. There was little to no ways to watch it if you missed it and you’d basically be screwed.

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          Oh I wasn’t allowed to watch tele growing up. No wonder I have no idea what this is

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        I haven’t heard the term but I assume it means watching TV on the station’s schedule. You know, broadcast and cable.

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      haha my dad was a tech nerd and when he bought his first programmable VCR back in the '80s he was on top of the world. He was recording everything

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    In the states anyway, our sense of community has almost vanished. Rather than concerning ourselves with improving society, we have become a nation of de facto sovereign citizens, all of us competing with everyone else.

    Even common courtesy has gone down the shitter. On the roads, at retail establishments, everything is a fight. Shove your way past everyone or you’re weak.

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    • People are way more free to talk about their mental health problems.
    • Climate change is part of mainstream awareness, most people want to see action on it.
    • Gays and lesbians are very broadly accepted in many parts of the world. Trans people are too (and they are more visible), even if there is also a culture war backlash.
    • Nearly everyone hates capitalism. Not everyone has figured out what needs to be done about it, but it’s a good start.
    • Conspiracy thinking is more rampant, presumably because of internet (mis/dis)information bubbles

    (I was born in the early 80s, so this is over the last 30ish years, since the mid 90s)

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      People are way more free to talk about their mental health problems.

      People still don’t understand.

      “Just be happy” is still a thing.

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        I didn’t say it was perfect. Just better. And I’m sure it’s improved more in some places than others.

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    Kids are way nicer now. Kids in my day were brutal and violent. Most things have improved. People are more aware of dangers to kids now so there are stronger safeguards. Kids are better protected by laws so violence against them is getting less common. Women actually make pretty good money now and aren’t restricted to secretary like roles and there’s less jokes that the woman is a secretary. I had never seen female ceos. They just didn’t exist. Now women can scam the public just as well as men 🤣 There’s still a long way to go but things are a lot better. Gay people aren’t dying of AIDS as much anymore and people will touch gay people without a problem. When I was growing up people believed gay men might be carrying AIDS and would not touch them. Thanks princess di for your work on this. Racial diversity is so much better now. Like women, people of color did not make CEO frequently. It’s still being worked on, but it’s gotten better. Racism itself has gotten better, kids don’t say racial slurs to one another.

    As far as environment there was a time when in the US we would celebrate some new technology innovation or infrastructure innovation. I remember when Boeing released a new plane and everyone was like wow so cool, this is redefining planes.

    But we have not had that in years. Our desire to be top in tech or science is gone. We used to want to be the best infrastructure, top of the line water treatment and getting to different space discoveries FIRST. Being part of nasa was a huge dream for many kids to just explore the planets.

    Now china has all this high speed transit and we have decaying pipes. In my childhood, this would not have been accepted. China was frowned upon.

    Other countries have gotten better to the point they surpassed us. When I would visit Mexico it would be to help build in rural areas. Now our rural areas are further decrepit than anything I saw there back then and Mexico City is a vibrant bustling gorgeous place.

    One visit to Apalachia and I have wondered how America got this way.

    There was also a lot more stress around decorum. This one was a double edged sword. People cared a lot about how they were perceived to the point of committing heinous acts to cover up the slightest insult to their character or perception. Now, it’s more free. We don’t keep up with the Joneses on the level it was back then. Being loud or dressing any type of way means nothing. It’s all good.

    But that has also led to the open and blatant acceptance of things like felonious behavior and led to what we have now. This kind of scandal would never have flown.

    But then again, no woman could have ever HOPED to run for president.

    There is also a lot more macro interests. I believe the people have more power now. Before, you had to listen to what’s on the radio. You had to watch why’s on tv. Trends could be fully controlled by the owners of these resources. Now your friend can post a video of their thermos surviving a car accident and suddenly a company who’s entire perception could not have possibly entered mainstream can. There is more freedom as a macro economy, you can truly access what interests you. This also leads to “too much choice” sometimes but it’s definitely awesome for some of us with unique interests. It has also leveled the playing field in way for trends to be able to match without extreme financial backing. You don’t have to be part of the big guys for your song or dance to go viral. You can have a niche on YouTube and make a living on commentary videos. You could not do this before.

    Finally, the access to tech has not only improved our lives but brought a level of freedom unheard of. In my day, only movie studios had the tools to make media. Now people can express themselves with minimal financial investment. People are creating at levels never seen before because they finally have access to tools needed for it. Microphones, software, cameras, painting classes, and the world has distinctly become more and more creative and colorful. This is also helped by the less keeping up with the Joneses worrying about their perception thing. The more free we are in creating and expression, the more diverse and beautiful our works get. And yes I think it’s cool people can openly create furry porn and then connect with others who like it. This is truly something unimaginable to my generation. Our weirdness was violently oppressed. Now we out here turning that violence into twilight fanfics that spawn movie franchises.

    You win some you lose some.

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    In not particular order, and a kind reminder that I’m not from US so some things may look different if you are from there:

    People are far noisier, as there is less concerns by being judged by your neighbors. People used to behave purely out of shame. Now the shame is gone and people are wild.

    Vast increase in dog ownership. There’s literally more dog than small kids in my country from several years now.

    Vast increase in immigration. Statistics are weird here, as we give citizenship to a great amount of migrants in just two years, and here is illegal to record statistics based on ethnicity, country of origin or any aspect that would identify anyone’s ancestry. But my neighborhood went to 90-10 national-immigrant to 40-60. I live in a poor neighborhood so it’s not the same in all parts of the country, but immigration increase is there and it’s a big change.

    Less violence overall. Street violence overall seems lower. Also there’s less of a terrorists threat as we used to have (there were several active terrorists groups here that are now gone).

    A housing problem. People used to get a house without issues. Now it’s one of the biggest issues of young people.

    Increase of tolerance towards homosexuality. It’s view as something very normal nowadays I think, and it use not to be that way.

    Increase of equality between men and women. Direct discrimination is completely outlaw and hard to see. Indirect discrimination may still exist but is on a all time low. Most bosses I have had in all my jobs have been women (for giving a small example).

    People go on vacation more often and further away. When I was young people used to just go one time a year on vacation, most of the time to a national place. Now people go several times a year to foreign countries, and “travel” have become the most important thing in many people’s lives (how many dating profiles have I seen in which the person pointed traveling as their life moto).

    Most people have university studies. It didn’t used to be that way.

    There’s probably much more. Those are the first things that came into my mind.

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    I’ve been arrested, held up at gun point, and spent a few weeks in a Texas jail in the 90s because I like smoking weed. Now I have 3 weed stores within 2 miles of me, and it’s as mundane as buying a loaf of bread. So that’s a positive in my book.

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      haha yeah I’ve been a pothead for 40-several years and I got my Florida MMU card last year. It took me a while to get past my “kid in a candy store” phase. Geez I wasn’t used to having ANY choice, let alone that many choices 😆

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    4 things

    1. People are getting lonelier and lonelier, even if we have the technoloogy, we keep getting further apart, it takes weeks to make time to see someone. So here I am, travelling alone…

    2. The attention span

    3. The willingness to actually do some legwork, laziness, or conformity.

    4. This will not sound nice: people getting dumber. There. I said it.

    my 4 cents

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    Outside of formal settings, I’d say that it’s uncommon for women to wear skirts or dresses in day-to-day life now.

    Menswear is considerably more casual. This is a trend that’s been going for over a century or so, so it certainly didn’t just happen during my life, but it did significantly change in that time.

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      I was a nurse in the US from 2015-2020 and in that time I saw one “old school” nurse who wore a white scrubs dress and white stockings/shoes. Every day that I saw her she was dressed this way so it wasn’t like for an event or something. Just working on the L&D floor. No hat though. Honestly no idea how anyone did the job of nursing in a damn dress anyway but they all did for a very long time before I was in the profession. Every time I saw her I was just jealous that she must not be cleaning up like, ANY shit where she works. For graduation we all wore the little hat, then that was the end of that forever.

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      I’d go further than that. I remember smoking being pretty common everywhere in the 1980s, and cigarette butts being common anywhere outdoors in a public setting.

      I rarely see anyone smoking anymore, and rarely see a single cigarette butt.

      That being said, where you are in the US is gonna be a factor, and there are some countries that do still see a fair bit of smoking.