Imagine getting all that wealth just to use it to hurt people
You are describing most of the billionaires.
There is a difference between abusing people to generate money and spending money to hurt people
Most of the Billionaires do both.
And this is why we boycott these cunts. Stop reading the books, stop watching the films, stop buying the merch, and stop playing the games. Every dollar you spend goes towards funding hate. All of these “separate the art from the artist” people can fuck off. If you actually believe that, YOU are the problem.
You can’t with her. She will have infinite money until the day she dies and will keep spending it on hate. Some people are too far ahead to boycott successfully and unfortunately she is one. Hopefully she pays in the next life
Just because you’ve given up doesn’t mean anyone else should. You don’t have to be able to solve the problem to at least stop making the problem worse. Tiny incremental progress is better than perfection, because the latter doesn’t exist, and if it did, it would be made out of lots of tiny incremental progress.
You also have to remember these people have a voice because we give it to them. She can be as rich as she wants, but we keep paying attention to her and she’ll keep being a bad influence on humanity. There is this weird thing with humans where we tend to assume people with money are worth listening to, when 999 out of 1000 of them are fucking worthless pig fuckers.
You also have to remember these people have a voice because we give it to them.
In some ways, sure, but these people also have a voice because owning-class mass media gives it to them. You can literally buy a figurative microphone. Pay for a platform. We don’t assume people with money are worth listening too, they’re simply the ones talking on every channel.
And they only have power because we listen. Engagement drives profit. Fox News isn’t profitable because they tell the truth.
Rowling doesn’t get paid when you buy used. Got the entire set of movies or books? Sell them to a used book store or donate them to the library. Give them away on Craigslist. Make it easy for people not to buy them new. Also, boycott new media like the HBO series by cancelling your subscription or calling out the actors online for participating.
I turned my wife into a nerd and now we go to half price books.
You can’t separate the art from the artist, but I can damn well ensure that none of my money goes to them.
Secondhand all the way baybee
I turned my wife into a nerd
reads this in Life Of Brian
“A nerd??”
“I got better”
I think im gonna give my old books to the library…
Not that I see any chance of it, but I’d love to see her get sued into oblivion (i.e. by the people directly harmed by her) as we’ve seen with the likes of Alex Jones.
Watching such a fall from grace would be enormously satisfying.
… you can consume without her profiting….
With brown butter and asparagus.
I fear the fungus in her house spoiled her meat. But it’s worth a try.
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Not only that, but he doubled down on it! I can’t remember the exact quote but it was something along the lines of “that judge was jealous. Everyone wants to fuck a 13 year old.” FFFFFUUUUCK. Goddamn these rich fucking cunts. I don’t think there is anything that gets me more charged up than hearing about a fucking pedophile that got a lenient sentence. The only purpose they can serve this world is to be made an example of. A brutal, sadistic example.
Tom Cruise is another example I fucking love to give. His movies keep Scientology afloat (in the case of sea org, literally). His movie’s profits fund slavery and abuse. STOP WATCHING HIS FUCKING MOVIES.
He drugged and raped a 13 year old child.
I hope everyone here is sane enough to understand that that is a lot worse than what JK Rowling is doing here.
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Funding a hatred campaign with the sole purpose to dehumanize a certain part of the world’s population isn’t that much better, though. Her actions have a lot more victims.
Polansky is disgusting and so is Rowling, but in a different way.
Trolley problem nuance, and morons are downvoting you
My kid’s school do a trip to Harry Potter World. I think it will be next year for him. I really don’t want to give my money to that vile woman, but I also don’t want him missing out. Looks like it’s time to start petitioning the school to go somewhere else.
That’s a phenomenal idea. If they push back, you could always involve your local paper. It kinda depends on where you live and the political leanings, though. If you are in the red, it may not do any good.
I would beg my kids not to eat at Chick Fil A, but inevitably hanging out with friends they would end up there on occasion well aware of their stance on various issues. Whenever they did eat there, I would make a $50 donation to GLAAD. I felt it was a small gesture to at least bring some balance to the Universe.
I just find this argument to be ridiculous. If you grew up with the bookes and movies and own them what harm are you doing by still enjoying those memories?
Enjoy the memories the books gave you, reread them if you still have the books if you want, but don’t buy more new stuff from that author.
Don’t buy tickets to the Harry Potter experience, don’t watch the new series or get the new game.
Because you are going to talk about them. You are going to let others borrow them. They may decide they want a copy of their owm. Or they may talk to others about it, and those people may decide to get copies of their own. Do you see how this works?
Could always pirate them
“Seperate the art from the artist” is great… when they’re dead. As always, you have to consider where the money goes. While she’s alive it goes to her, and she uses it to do evil.
What would happen if some TG activists and/or allies set up a combined small publishing house and retail store that sold copies of her books without permission or royalties paid, perhaps even DVDs of her movies?
It doesn’t matter. Keeping her in the cultural zeitgeist is the same as giving her money directly. We live in a connected world. Word of mouth is engagement, and engagement drives profit. Talking about her works to friends, family, or strangers on the internet keeps her relevant. The most gracious thing we can do is to force her into obscurity. Every other solution that benefits humanity involves cutlery and an iron will.
The activists and/or allies might get sued by Rowling and her publisher(s) (and whatever production company(/ies) that make her movies) would argue that the activists are stealing money from Rowling.
If they are right, Rowling suffers.
If they aren’t, it might undermine their arguments about copyright.
Either way, the political left (and much of the libertarian movement—the non-richies, in this matter) wins.
What a miserable person. I can’t imagine having her wealth and using it to try to hurt people.
I can think of quite a few people that I would go out of my way to destroy.
Starting with a few politicians.
The difference between not being keen on trans people and making a few shitposts versus actively devoting time and money towards oppressing them is HUGE.
This isn’t just someone with an alternative opinion we’re talking about. It’s someone using more wealth than a lot of us will never touch, to fuck over an already marginalised group. She’s pure fucking evil.
It’s loathsome because she has chosen to use her vast wealth to punch down.
Sadly I’m still going to hear “Oh she gives to LGBT Charities, she just doesn’t agree with transpeople on EVERY little thing, doesn’t mean she’s a transphobe.”
This is why the new tv series will be hated by all. They had a chance to remake and sanitize the series away from the grimy hands of JK and instead they doubled down. So if anything this remake might be even more offensive.
The wild thing is that growing up I had all the conservatives and bible people trying to stop us kids from reading the demonic Harry Potter novels. Now that they realize the author is one of them, they suddenly love the books about witchcraft!
Unfortunately, they won’t be hated. A lot of people don’t actually care all that much about trans people :(
Or anyone else for that matter
They will cast Snape as black and the audience will wonder why Harry immediately hates him.
Are you not aware that Snape literally has been cast as black? Because if not that’s hilarious coincidence.
That’s the confusing thing to me, clearly the left audience is done with JK, but the show is also pissing off the right with “woke casting”
Just like the best selling game of the year, Hogwarts Legacy.
I don’t think Hogwarts: Legacy doubled down, though? It’s definitely sad that she made money off that game being sold, but she didn’t have any hand in the writing. The game has trans characters and allows the player to be trans as well.
My comment was only to point out that the mainstream does not care about JKR’s take on trans people and that anything Harry Potter will print money, which is the opposite of OP’s take on things.
she does profit from the IP being sold. and people were like defending the game and her transphobia.
They had a chance to remake and sanitize the series away from the grimy hands of JK
Did they really? My impression was that she used her copyright control
She’s such a scumbag. Had it all and ruined her name and art for what? To be hateful? Shame on her and shame on HBO for handing her more money and fueling her hate.
#piratepotter don’t let a dime go to Rowling or those trying to benefit from her.
The world would be fine without Harry Potter, and better without JK Rowling.
Y’er a pirate, Harry
bitch, sit down.
literally tho
Family guy foreshadowed rowling in 2 cutscnes in the old seasons.
one of them was allegedly about peter, the sorting hat said" housing for registered sex offendors"
and the other 1 is peter saying: now its a problematic writing jk rowling, and then it goes to scene with the sorting hat saying to the girl, about how she is she is “trans” but the hat refutes that.
What a miserable person. More money than God and all she can do is sit around hating people she’s never met.
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Transgenders are living rent-free in her head.
What a sad, hateful person who has squandered an opportunity to actually do something good with her considerable wealth and previous social capital.
the thing i don’t get is why people are focused on the transgender community so much?
IMO its always about scapegoating, you need to find a minority which is prevelant enough for people to have encountered, but not too many that they’re in everyone’s family or work or friend circle - and that won’t have significant civic or voting power.
Post-ww2, ethnic divisions are more taboo, gay rights are too broadly popular to pursue, but trans people are the conservatives best punching down opportunity, while trying to appeal to people on the fence by being ‘virtuous’ and ‘saving the kids’.
They want to hate on someone but it’s passé to hate on plain old gay people now.
Trans and brown people are trendy now.
J K Rowling can go suck a fuck.
It would have been so easy for her to shut her mouth and keep supporting the feminist causes she did support, and instead she’s spent so much time and political capital attacking the ideas she doesn’t support.
It’s fucking asinine. Her mother clearly never taught her to shut the fuck up if she has nothing of value to say.
Boycotts work! Don’t watch her show on HBO and cancel your subscription after The Last of Us season finale of course. If her brand becomes toxic nobody will fund projects around it and she will fade into obscurity.
To many people care more about their immediate shiny than any lasting harm their actions do in the world.
Just look at how quickly the Nintendo Switch 2 sold out preorders, despite explicitly telling customers they won’t even own the device, and thus nintendo can fucking brick the thing whenever they want.
Don’t watch anything of hers on anything, like she’ll still be getting royalties for films.
I didn’t subscribe to HBO when Game of Thrones was airing, I’m not about to start now.
Harry Potter defenders: “JK Rowling just said mean words online she hasn’t actually harmed trans people!”
What JK Rowling is doing with the money:
Someone dear to me is heartbroken and perennially conflicted because she absolutely loved Harry Potter growing up, and is also keenly aware of how shitty JK Rowling is. Now as an adult the Harry Potter franchise is one of the things that gives her joy in an otherwise very hard life she has had.
I’m not giving any more details about her. All I’m asking is, give these people a break, please. Not everyone is in a position in life to be an activist on everything, and while it might sound silly, things like HP are a big part of some people’s childhoods and taking those away from them can be devastating.
Ok but harry potter “defenders” and jk Rowling defenders are not the same. You can appreciate the world of HP while not agreeing or supporting their shit creator.
I disagree. Sometimes you can’t separate the art from the artist when they are actively using their wealth and influence to oppress an already marginalized group. Just take a look at what recently happened and is happening to Tesla.
yes you can but i will still judge you because it’s a terribly written series
I found it very fun, interesting and captivating when I read those books (that is, when I was maybe 13-16?). If it was “terribly written” it wouldn’t have made the success it did, and also the target audience is generally not made of literary critics.
So I don’t think there is much to judge, especially since many people’s good opinion on the story is based on their lived experience with it, from when they were younger etc. And you can’t erase that from your life because the author turned out to be an asshole 15 years later.
“If it was “terribly written” it wouldn’t have made the success it did”
Dan Brown’s millions beg to differ.
If people like HP stuff they might want to try Dianna Wynne Jones’ stuff: earlier, better, and didn’t have the same fortunate exposure.
The DaVinci code sold 80 millions copies. The first HP book alone sold 120 millions, and the whole series 600 millions, being the most sold series of books.
Not only they are one order of magnitude apart, but I think they sold for different reasons.
I haven’t read Dan Brown’s stuff, but I also doubt it’s terribly written by the way. Books that capture the interest of a population more and more unused to read can be shallow, banal, inconsistent, whatever, but not terribly written. Casual readers can hardly finish a terribly written book. In any case, HP books are children’s books. Children or teenagers are not literary critics, it’s not about reading “great literature”, however you define that.
I also can’t help to notice the coincidence that all the HP critiques started appearing in the last years, when the author went bananas. A series this popular, which ended in 2007, and suddenly 15 years later people notice that it’s “terribly written”? This smells more to me of a damnatio memoriae than genuine critique.
You haven’t read it, but that’s what you reckon? Okay.
As to the other point: JKR’s stuff is trite and derivative, but I do think that some of its “problematic” aspects are likely just because it’s regurgitating European fantasy tropes, which themselves may (originally or later on) encode antisemitism and so on.
And when it comes to it, subjecting any popular series to close reading with an eye for affront is likely to show up its flaws. Just think of all the janitors who blew up with the death star.
But Brown’s stuff is utter garbage (not to mention just ripping off “the Holy Blood and the Holy Grail”, which was pretty awful to begin with) - if you have the chance to pick it up second-hand I’d encourage you to see if you can finish it.
I actually disagree that a book is “problematic” because it touches, presents, includes etc. any topic that morally we disagree with. Not every book has to be a manifesto or a depiction for a moral and just society, which is why I find most of the arguments against HP to be weak (some points were listed in a sibling comment thread).
subjecting any popular series to close reading with an eye for affront is likely to show up its flaws
I am quite sure this is true for any book (especially fiction), in fact. Which is why I think it’s an activity that makes sense only to justify the pre-existing opinion about the book, rather than having a value in itself.
if you have the chance to pick it up second-hand I’d encourage you to see if you can finish it.
To be clear, I know that Dan Brown stuff is garbage. I just have seen people who I think never read a book in the previous 10 years read that one (in translation though, so who knows…). So the book must at least be interesting and intriguing to keep the attention of people who are not used to read. For me this means not fitting in the “terrible writing” category, but maybe we mean different things by that.
she was an asshole back then and you can see it all over her books. i think i was probably lucky enough to be a bit older than the target demo to find HP even remotely interesting but kids at the time were super generous and kind with the books and interpreted them in good ways that jowling kowling rowling clearly never intended. which is why she retconned diversity into her books for example.
i completely believe in the death of the author, but also won’t stand for praising a shitty author’s shitty books just because people headcanoned a lot of good things into it to make them suck less.
Honestly, I read the books translated + I could not and still cannot relate with the issues that I often see raised against the book (like the way diversity is represented). Especially when I was a kid, those issues were so not in my mind that I would never ever flag as issues.
To make an example: for me as a kid, slavery was something that mostly had to do with the roman empire. The whole debacle about house elves etc. is completely disconnected from real societal probelsm, recent history etc. I have always rooted for the elves because that’s what I was pushed to do emotionally, but without really ever reflecting on slavery as a whole. I am picking this example because it’s one of the most used ones to critique the book.
In general I also believe that authors can build worlds that do not represent their views, I find a lot of the critique I have read a stretch and I am especially suspicious that most of these critiques started appearing recently. I believe people started with the thesis (she is an asshole) and then backtracked the analysis trying to find anything at all in the books that could support the conclusion (rather than viceversa).
Either way, all of this is relatively irrelevant. People can like or dislike books - especially fiction - freely. For me the book is mostly associated with a vibe of being young, thinking about those stories, relating with the characters etc., not with the actual books content. So it’s more about thinking back of childhood/past than appreciating the literary value.
well the critique is not about the world building. i mean the world building is bad too but that’s not about the morality of the world. the critique is about what the books present as good or bad.
there are many examples of this.
body shaming and misogyny/transphobia: bad people are fat, good people are at most “plump”. bad women have mannish features, like big physiques, square jaws and mustaches.
slavery is good, actually: the problem with slavery in the books isn’t that it’s portrayed at all, it’s that it’s portrayed as good for the house elves except for one weirdo freak who wants to be free for some reason. also house elves even as a term is yikes imo.
zero concern for diversity: it’s not that the book just lacks it but the fact that the very few token characters who were put in are just cardboard cutouts with downright disrespectful names. the Asian girl is cho chang because i think the editor may have vetoed the first ch-ch name she came up with. the black guy is called kingsley shacklebolt because “tyrone escapedslave” was too on the nose i guess. the british wizarding school is for some reason more populous than schools that represent much larger populations, and it has a proper name while all others are called “wizard school” or “magic place” very badly translated because she couldn’t be fucked to engage with another culture even on a surface level. she also disrespectfully dismissed some regional beliefs about magic because why not.
good people vs bad people, not good deeds vs bad deeds: you can see throughout the book “good” and “bad” people doing the exact same things but represented as good and bad depending on who’s doing them, not what they’re doing.
status quo above all: challenging systemic problems is never a solution, even slavery, and any change must only involve individuals. whatever you may gather as “challenging authority” for example is always about the people using the authority, and not whether the authority itself should exist at all. the main protagonist becomes a fucking cop at the end. and the books end in literally everything being the same as it started, sans the threat of voldy, and “all is well” despite the same abusive systems, castes and slavery still existing. because status quo is good and systemic change is bad.
it keeps going, and it gets worse if you go beyond the HP books. it’s not what’s in the world, it’s how she presents them.
And I can acknowledge that while also having nostalgia for books that I grew up with as a literal child. Judge away.
boo former child
Can’t she just take up knitting or photography or racing driving?
No, because she’s still traumatized by the thought that Corbyn could have won, and could have raised her taxes.
“You hurt a community the most by going after their most vulnerable.”
No because we all keep talking about her.
I’d prefer she take up parachuteless BASE diving, personally.
Is that Titanic sub company still in business?
Appreciated, I just don’t get why people choose hate as a hobby when there are much better options.
