Another Lemmy thread led me to thinking about getting a cheap VPS for my homelab. I’m double-NATted by my ISP, so I can’t do traditional port forwarding. I’d like to get a cheap VPS, install Tailscale on it, and access my homelab from anywhere without having to have Tailscale on every device I use (at work where I can’t install it, for example).

I found a cheap VPS company and the plan I was looking at gives 1000 GB bandwidth per month. Some of the things I want to access are media servers (Navidrome and Jellyfin). So if I set up the VPS with nothing but a reverse proxy and Tailscale, will all my Jellyfin traffic go through the VPS and count as bandwidth used?

  • WFloyd@lemmy.worldEnglish
    151·
    2 days ago

    will all my Jellyfin traffic go through the VPS

    Yes

    and count as bandwidth used?

    Yes, twice (download from home to the server, and upload from the server to the client)

    I do the same thing - I have a 3TB limit, but usually only use 300GB, sharing Jellyfin to a dozen or so users.

    Edit: I’m sure there are plenty of good VPS providers out there, I personally have been using NerdRack for a few years now (got a VPS on special and the rate is locked as long as I keep it). Looks like they’ll do $11/year right now for a KVM VPS that’s sufficient.

    • chriscrutch@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      Thank you for answering very clearly. That’s what I was expecting to hear. I was also looking at Nerdrack. It’s very interesting to hear your bandwidth numbers, I would only be serving to three users, so I’d likely be looking at much less than your 300 GB, which is very good to know!

      • it's not often that shit just works@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        I am thinking about trying my hand at Tailscale, and have been tempted to click through to the Server Host offering on the LowEndBox $2 list.

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        There’s a smaller one in the $1 list, also with allegedly unmetered bandwidth.

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    • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgEnglish
      2·
      3 days ago

      Can confirm, but depending on the VPS, your traffic may only be metered in one direction. Mine only meters egress, not ingress, so it’s not too bad if I want to use my media server.

    • theit8514@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      3 days ago

      This would depend on whether the limit is defined as ingress or egress or both. For example AWS has free ingress traffic from the internet but there is a cost for egress traffic to the internet.

      A better solution would be to find a unmetered service, which means that you have a fixed transfer speed (e.g. 500 Mbit) but have unlimited bandwidth. OVH offers this in their VPS products.

  • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    6·
    2 days ago

    FYI, Tailscale has the Funnel feature, so you can access your TS network without a client. Check it out.

    • Mordikan@kbin.earth
      2·
      2 days ago

      I’ve been using Tailscale for awhile now and had no idea Funnel existed. I’m sitting behind CG-NAT and that is the kind of solution I’ve been after for my media server. Thank you so much for the heads up.

    • chriscrutch@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      Using it now for just jellyfin and it works well, but at this point it’s still in beta and there’s a maximum of three ports available.

  • JASN_DE@feddit.orgEnglish
    6·
    3 days ago

    will all my Jellyfin traffic go through the VPS and count as bandwidth used?

    Yes.

  • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
    31·
    3 days ago

    How/why are you double NAT’d? Is it the ISP’s fault, or did you setup your own router behind their NAT’d handoff? If the latter, you can work around this.

    Some other options to deal with the former:

    • Talk to them about running their handoff device in passthrough mode, or turn it on yourself (lookup the model and see instructions)
    • Get a static IP for your router on their network (not applicable to CGNAT)

    Regarding Tailscale: you shouldn’t need a VPS for this. Even though you’re stuck with dNAT, the Tailscale client should be able to figure out a way to communicate with you wherever you are with DERP servers. Install on your phone, then a machine at home, and try it out.

    • chriscrutch@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      It’s the ISP. I’ve asked about it, they won’t let me do anything about it unless I sign up for a business account at triple the price.

      And no, I don’t need a VPS strictly for Tailscale, but i do want to access my tailnet from machines where I cannot install Tailscale (at work and on a roku tv in a remote location, specifically).