Years earlier, she had asked a boss if he would let his children fly on a plane with the litany of flaws and non-conformances he was urging her to “pencil-whip”: “Cindy, none of these planes are staying in America, they’re all going overseas,” he retorted, much to her horror.

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        You know why the 2008 financial crisis happened? Banks sold assets under the assumption that their credit rating was intact.

        Sure, I would afford Airbus every benefit of a doubt, but sorry, Boeing is building a track record which none of us should ignore. My speculation is warranted.

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            Of course a suicide would have advance knowledge of their own death. It’s not unusual for suicidal people to lie about their own mental health. Especially to their closest loved ones.

            What you point out could only support a vague suspicion; a motive to look for compelling evidence. Hanging a whole murder conspiracy on evidence this thin is not the product of critical thought.

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              username checks out. You should leave the critical thinking to people who aren’t born yesterday

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          Listen man, I personally go out of my way to not fly on Boeing planes, but we have no idea what happened to the Air India flight. And frankly, what we know about QC problems with 787 airframes is nowhere close to giving you an immediate double engine rollback right after rotation.

          Of course, as always on Lemmy, people who know very little about a topic will accuse those with more nuanced opinions of being paid off because they’re not validating their simple world views. It’s like discussing people in a crack house.

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            oh nuanced! you’re so sophisticated! first don’t dismiss others as if they have no idea. acknowledge you may not be the smartest in the room. Otherwise you come off as a clown.

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              No, I will continue dismissing you as having no idea of what you’re talking about because that’s clear to anyone who’s even half educated about aviation.

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    Sounds like the planes Boeing sent to India had foreign object debris rattling around inside conduits.

    That’s a ticking time bomb for random electrical failures, such as both engines shutting down right after takeoff.

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        The company I work for did end up hiring many of the temp engineers from the company in that article, and the ones hired are some great coworkers, but there were many we didn’t hire.

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    I am genuinely curious why on Earth airline companies are still buying Boeing planes. The last 5-10 crashes all included their planes and it is a mystery why their shares didn’t tank more.

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      Airbus has a backlog of 8000 jets. Order one today and it will take a decade before it arrives. So airliners basically have to keep their current fleet flying.

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      Planes they already have can’t really be grounded immediately without replacements. Buying replacements takes time and money. Negotiating contracts also takes time. Pre existing contracts tying a company to boeing probably exist in some places. There’s probably some incentive to not drop a somewhat strategic business on a whim. And maybe some people believe that boeing will start pulling their head out of their ass at some point.

      And all that would be a hindrance assuming there is a will to stop buying boeing planes, AND move to another, potentially foreign business like Airbus.

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      they probably already bought too many of Boeing planes before these accidents happened. So what are they gonna do, put a bunch of Boeing planes in the back room and use Airbus? Still when i fly, I avoid Boeing like a plague. The problem is there are very limited Airbus flights for my route.

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    Boeing is straight fucking scum, but that was the strangest plane crash I’ve ever seen. (LOL, like I’m an export.) The truth will out.

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        I remember that, if I remember correctly, it was a tank, and they suddenly had a massive CoG shift to the back of the aircraft, causing the plane to pitch up and stall.

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        Thanks for sharing this.

        Aside from the promotional material in the video, it’s nice to see something that shows the raw footage instead of some talking heads babbling over an edited cut.

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      Yeah… The article is conflating power failure with engine failure. It was a very odd plane crash, and it didn’t appear that they had power failure. It looks like they lost thrust on both engines, which is really rare in multiengine aircraft.

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        It seemed to take forever to start to rotate and the nose was pointed up the whole time. I would have expected to see the nose point down to prevent a stall.

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      Yep, another Boeing mystery crash where everything stopped working at once.

      I’m kinda suspicious that the critical moments weren’t actually missing from Jeju Air’s black boxes when they were delivered to the US.

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        The 787 has backup power for black boxes while the 737 uses an outdated design that does not, so there shouldn’t be missing data hopefully.

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          Good. They might be more intact, too, given how it sounds like this plane landed.

          I don’t know much about the deep details of either plane, but as I understand it there is a backup power system on the 737, albeit not one for the black boxes themselves. The indications were it just failed as well, at the same time.