Yeah… The article is conflating power failure with engine failure. It was a very odd plane crash, and it didn’t appear that they had power failure. It looks like they lost thrust on both engines, which is really rare in multiengine aircraft.
Not only that, but they also just love having a circus monkey at the pulpit. More people are tuning in whether you like or hate trump, it doesn’t matter to them or the advertisers.
I’d def agree with that before him wanting resources.
Idk, the gdp of Greenland is only 3b a year and it’s mostly from fishing. There’s really nothing the US could extract from Greenland that would be worth the cost of invading it. There’s some potential for mining, but you’d have to build an entire infrastructure to do it, and we don’t even want to invest in building infrastructure in the US.
Realistically the only thing that makes Greenland strategically important would be controlling the shipping lanes up north. However, the only strategically significant rival we have that utilizes those shopping lanes are Russia, whom the administration wants to buddy up too.
I think it’s just meat they throw out to the media anytime they want to distract from their failures, and of course our pathetic press just gobbles it up every time.
I don’t know for sure, but I imagine all airports have a bunch of cameras. To me it looks like it was a wider shot and someone went and focused on it through the NVR.
Idk, the US full throated supporting Israel is fighting against the innate urge for trump to rat fuck any ally possible…
Tbh it seems like a 50/50, based on the article the administration seems to be trying to distance themselves from the event. Pulling personnel out of Iraq and warning allies of the attack may be good news. Hopefully we may have just witnessed Bibi overstepping the line for the last time?
visited the foothills once
Again, projecting…
Yeah. That’s what i said. I didn’t say we would stay healthy, i said they couldn’t starve the people without going hungry themselves.
Lol, shifting the goal post …your original claim was that people in certain areas would be fine living off the land if the government theoretically cut off the food supply. You then shifted the argument to the government cannot shut off the food supply. You then went into some weird delusional fantasy that Californians would rise up and take down aircraft carriers with missiles.
Yeah they own stuff. But i buy my groceries from these peoples’ families, and they arent all cool with this.
Aren’t cool with isn’t the same as willing to indulge your weird ass fantasy land where they become freedom fighters.
Yes some people are willing to do violence to preserve their rights, but most people are just trying to live their lives and fly under the radar. Which is why history is filled with tragedy and injustice.
But you just kind of ignored everything i said so you could say something technically true and put it where a response to me would go.
What part did I ignore? You brought up incorrect facts about the CCP and the Black Panthers, which I addressed accurately.
I just think you like to speak before you think. We’re not in a romantic novel, life is hard and the good guys don’t always win. I’m not trying to discourage you, I’m just trying to temper your optimism with the reality of what happens to the vast majority of revolutionary forces.
Don’t get me started
You were the one who brought it up?
So i got you?
So you don’t know what projection is?
Look at a map. Talk to the people in all the places you’d have to go through. Maybe if they let this die down, and start it with something other than a police action. But if this goes hot? From fed cops? No. The sierra-nevadas may as well be in afghanistan.
I used to live in the Western foothills of the valley… it’s mostly empty rolling hills dude.
The logistics of getting food to stores is complex and it really wouldn’t take much but some instability to cause major food insecurity in the majority of the country.
True, it wont be universal. I’m even seeing people in OC upset about this though, and if the admin’s lost them, they’ve lost every major foothold with californians. Maybe downtown palo alto, for about five minutes. Maybe san diego, if they skew the demographics with a few aircraft carriers-but theres not much food between there, mexico, and the mountains.
I think you are overestimating the amount of people who would transition from being upset to taking up arms against the government. Most people barely pay attention to politics.
You don’t even know what a maoist ‘people’s war’ even is, and that’s likely the doctrine they’ll start with. You certainly don’t know who the panthers were, or the kinds of people they were. You don’t know what or where you’re talking about.
Lol, the CCP were fighting with much more than just small arms. They and the kmt were both supplied by the US and the Soviets against the Japanese.
You certainly don’t know who the panthers were, or the kinds of people they were. You don’t know what or where you’re talking about.
The Black Panthers never went to war with a military… Fred Hampton was murdered by regular cops with pistols shotguns and rifles.
Just because I don’t buy into your delusion that all of California is going to rise up and defeat aircraft carriers with som Glock and some semi auto rifles, doesn’t mean I don’t know about leftist revolutions.
Chuds can’t and wont do real work. Not in numbers, anyway.
Chuds already manage the farms and ranches in Cali.
Notoriously productive resilient and efficient with their military resources: Slave States!
Yes, because there’s no historical evidence of militant police states being able to feed themselves…
You play too many fucking map view strategy games. Go outside, maybe read a book. Or at least play the more complicated map games.
Lol, dude. You are projecting… You sound exactly like all the come and take it right winged chuds who thinks they’re going to turn into Rambo over night.
Something wrong with the fuel system was my initial armchair guess, but I’m not so sure based off the second vid. One would expect to see some yaw or rolling in an underpowered or lost of power take off with a jet.
Guess we’ll have to wait until someone more qualified explains it.
I just saw that video and it is really strange. Not so much that rat hasn’t been deployed, I don’t think they lost hydraulics or electronics and I’m not sure they even reached the minimum speed where the rat would really help.
The strange thing is that it didn’t really look like there was very much yaw or rolling which you would expect to see with a fuel system failure. They seemed to be flying straight as an arrow and gliding it down?
Maybe something wrong with thrust control? Kinda crazy.
Unless they’re airlifting it all out. In which case it still has to fly over terrain that’s not to their advantage.
Why would they have to fly anything out of the valley? If the military is able to secure supply lines in war zones that have more than small arms resistance I don’t think it’s going to be a challenge to secure them in Cali.
we also make the missiles here.
Who’s we? It’s not like the entire country is going to support a rebellion, especially not anyone in the military industrial complex. Even if you have missiles, you don’t have the weapons platforms or even know how to operate them.
The best option for them would be the port of oakland. Theres lots of shitty tech bros there, but you still see tributes to the best and best dressed mlm’s to ever pick up a rifle, some of whom are, while far past fighting age, still kicking around a dense high tech city-and this would be for their food supply line, so it wouldn’t exactly be possible to starve them out.
What are you talking about? Why would food have to go to Oakland? You don’t ship food from California to the rest of the country on boats… Nor are some old dudes with small arms going to be able to do anything to military convoy.
The farms are all staffed by people who hate them. Every single one, not just here but especially here. Even the small/mid sized farmers-and i have talked to them-hate this shit, or are literally beibg chased out of the fields, literally as i type this. The logistics lines are disproportionately worked by those same people.
Work gangs, prison labour, political prisoners, hungry people willing to capitulate to feed their families…you know the same thing that has happened throughout history. Plus, there’s plenty of conservative chuds in the valley.
For multi engine planes it’s pretty rare, most likely a fuel system failure, or less likely pilot throttling error. My money would be on something with the fuel system.
I’m not sure they could control the means of production here.
You don’t think a military force could control the supply line of some farmers? Most of which are already owned by large conglomerates that would gladly follow the orders of the government…
A lot of it is in and around areas that arent ideal terrain for fighting on their side.
Have you been to the central valley? It’s just large open fields and orchards surrounded by gentle rolling hills, it’s not the fucking korengal valley my dude.
There are areas and kinds of people who can live off the land, in one way or another. They do exist.
They can live off the land when the vast majority of the population isn’t trying to do the same. Hungry human populations are worse than locust, we can absolutely destroy entire ecologies in weeks.
the military really is in the same boat as the rest of us.
In the scenario they proposed the military would be controlling the means of food production. This isn’t something we have to guess about, there’s plenty of examples of intentional famines like what the Brits did to Bengal, and the Irish, or the Soviets in Ukraine, and unintentional like during China’s cultural revolution. During those famines the military didn’t starve, the common people did.
If those populations who were already subsistence farmers and hunters couldn’t “live off the land” then what makes you think anyone on lemy is going to do any better?
They can’t really do that in America, there’s too much land and room and food.
50% of the produce we consume is grown in the California central valley. The rest is grown in a few areas of the Great plains and in Florida.
Most of the food you see growing anywhere else isn’t for people, it’s for livestock.
For someone like me, if the food supplies were all cut off I could just live off of the land by hunting, fishing, and farming.
I think you are overestimating just how much food “the land” can provide. You need around an acre a person for subsistence farming, and that is assuming you live in a region that has a decent climate, that you have irrigation, and have access to modern fertilizer and pesticides.
As far as hunting and fishing goes… If a large sector of the population had to live off the land, the wildlife likely wouldn’t last a single season. The only reason we still have the wild animal populations we currently have is because there are strict regulations monitoring the amount of people who hunt and fish.
Early Americans were able to devastate a larger healthier ecology with a tiny fraction of our current population. Most of our country’s natural Forrest and woodland were already destroyed and artificially rehabilitated over a hundred years ago. We have very few old growth Forrest for us to actually live off of.
If it weren’t for petrochemical fertilizer the natural nitrogen cycle wouldn’t be enough to sustain our current population. Since the invention of the haber process in the 1930s we are all just a bad year away from food insecurity.
I don’t think that the movie was proposing that the issue or solution is eugenics based. I would argue that educated people are probably able provide a better education, and that uneducated parents are less likely to be able to provide their children with a quality education.
I don’t specifically remember Idiocracy really going into depth about “passing good genes”.
Yes, because of their criminal problems. Not because of their language, clothing style, food preferences, etc. But because of the enormous percentage of criminal involvement.
That is the same claim that “racist” in the US make all the time… Simply assuming that a person engages in criminal activity because of their ethnicity is bigotry.
Are you by chance not a USA citizen? I have some stereotypes about US citizens too.
US citizen is not an ethnic group you moron.
Yes, we hate gipsies. But not because of their race (they don’t even have a separate race), but because of some nuances of their culture that involve a lot of criminal.
Lol, if you want to split hairs like that… race itself is not an actual classification system and isn’t real in any meaningful way. What it represents is a bias against certain ethnic groups based off of an ever changing list of generalities.
What the general public interprets as racism is unfounded bigotry against individuals or groups of people for simple belongings to an ethnic group. Having negative preconceived notions against an ethnic minority like the Romani people is racism, and attempting to escape the accusation of racism by engaging in semantics is just pathetic.
tell that bullshit to another racist like you.
Lol, I’m a bi-racial ethnic minority living in the most conservative state in America…You are a white European that just accused an entire ethnic group of being criminals…and I’m the racist?
You don’t get a pass on your privilege because you live in Europe…an entire continent that enriched itself by engaging in colonialism self validated by racial theory. Go kick rocks bigot.
Well, it is a rather multilayered phrase. And sarcasm is present there too. And yes, I really think that most of the US citizens are racists.
Most white people are racist…including the majority of Europeans. Just ask your average European about the Romani people and you’ll get to hear some “interesting” opinions.
(I suppose this is exactly the case: the “woke” US citizen mumbling some racist shit while being sure that he is being super anti-racist).
Pointing out that international media has biases when it comes to ethnicity is not racist. Claiming that racism is not a problem in Europe, or that European news is devoid of racial biases is racist.
Always glad to know …and I’m guessing here, that a white dude from one of the most privileged places in the world still think of themselves as the authority when it comes to defining racism… It’s reassuring that some things will never change.
If it was from electrical failure, it’d be more likely to happen in the pilot’s thrust control than simultaneously in both engines. But usually if both engines fail after take off…my money is on fuel system failure.