I’m a 54-year-old man, recently separated from my wife of 31 years - just earlier this month. Honestly, I’m already feeling bored and lonely, so I’ve been considering trying out dating apps (I’ve never used one before). However, my sons (30 and 28) tell me it’s a waste of time and possibly even a scam, and I’ve seen similar opinions online. So I’m not sure what to think.
works for a not bad looking, if attractive person, or a well off user. but probably not if your kinda of average or below that, with little to no money so to speak. because its all vain expectations. at least they are using those dating apps, instead of going to pickup artists, which perpuates misogyny quite alot, even if these groups arnt intentionally doing it.
As a massive introvert it’s pretty much the only way I meet anybody. I could write a multi-volume treatise on why people hate online dating and how it points to them doing it wrong in some way. But I’ll spare you other than to say remember that you’re asking a computer to match you with someone. It has no feelings for you and will just do what makes sense for the system as a whole, not for you in particular.
Just have low expectations - a lot of people treat those they meet on the app as relatively disposable compared to someone they met in real life. So if someone ghosts you or just disappears from the app without a word, it’s definitely impolite but not uncommon. Don’t take it personally (even though my friends tend to take it personally when it happens to them).
I used them for maybe 3/4 of a year to one year (dont know exactly) and it was the biggest time waste I have been part of. I usually spent about 1 hour per day swiping all potential partners the app suggested me. I swiped almost everything right, as long as they did not have any obvious red flags or they didnt looked like a person I could be attracted to. I had the radius set to 50km what meant, that I was getting potential partners from 2 larger Citys.
The result of this about 1 year of using the app was probably like 10 matches, maybe 2 actually good chats that resolved into me having to pull everything out of the others nose in like 3 days. That’s it. No exchanging numbers, no dates nothing. It only made me feel more lonely due to my “obvious incapabilities to attract a partner” (of course not, but that’s what it felt like). There devinetively is a chance of them working (one of my best friends found his GF on a dating app), but that’s like saying “theres a chance to win in the lottery, and it could be you who wins it”. It is not impossible for the apps to work, but for the majority of people dating apps are an absolute scam that are actively hurting you. After realising, what a time waste these apps are I just decided to give up on dating, because there is a zero percent chance of me actually being able to find a partner in real life. I never dated, I dont know how to do it and at this point I honestly do not fucking care. If by some miracle I might get the chance to get into a relationship I won’t say no, but until then I’m fine the way I currently life.
I swiped almost everything right
Don’t do this, if this is an input into your app’s algorithm at all it’ll assume you’re ugly and desperate and not show you to anyone. Only swipe on people you’d be at least potentially excited to meet and that could actually work out (e.g. don’t swipe right on someone who’s profile says “I want a man of god” if you’re a hardcore atheist). I shifted to this strategy on hinge and it made a noticeable difference in the number and quality of matches.
Think about it - if you only swipe right on good matches (for both of you), they’ll see you and be more likely to swipe right on you, improving your match rate. And don’t worry about how their level of attractiveness plays into this, because it’ll be weighted for that.
I devinetively had some principles. Anyone who stated that they are rightwing, believed in some form of conspiracy theories, looked like they just need someone’s money to spend, whose profile looks like whose whole personality is how they look like and people that I simply didnt thought looked attractive did not get a right swipe. This sorted out about 20% or so of the people the Algorithm showed to me. The rest got a right swipe, because they looked somewhat attractive and had no really obvious dealbreakers. They might have some things that I may not really like, but would be willing to overlook (e.g. smoking).
They’re an excellent way to expose yourself to way more people than you would in real life. But the people who’ve been using them for a long time tend to have a warped mindset of very high standards. If they drop the person they’re currently seeing they can line up another date within a week. That’s been my experience in the 20s demographic, but maybe the older crowd is different
It can be rough on your head (emotions, ego, attitude). I went to Match at 67, felt a little like back at Jr. High. Announced I’d give up twice, but arter a bit looked back again. My last “what the hell, one more” connection was with my now partner and I’m glad I stayed with it. I don’t know how much was luck. We’ve been together 4 years, sold our houses, bought one together.
Your sons are speaking from their experience, which may not be the same as yours.
They absolutely do work, and I can’t recommend them enough - this is coming from a male mid-40s divorcee. I was on and off Tinder for 4 years looking for a relationship and met several women, before finally meeting my soul mate. For somebody like me who isn’t the most outgoing person, they were a godsend in terms of meeting people. Some of the negativity in these responses is wild.
They’re a relaxed, accessible mechanism for starting conversations. Yes, there’s incentive for the companies to keep you on the apps but it’s certainly not forced, because if they didn’t ever work, their incentive for use evaporates.
I am 100% of the opinion that people who have limited luck on dating apps are likely to have the same limited luck in real life. It’s just that the apps present you with multiple “opportunities” in succession that you don’t get in real life, so it could feel like constant rejection for some. If you match with a real person and start a conversation that goes nowhere, that’s down to yours or their communication, or a simple incompatibility. Both parties have already shown an interest at the point of matching. Where it goes from there is down to you.
It’s entirely a numbers game. You can’t expect to hit it off with every person you match with online, any more than you could in real life. But you will find someone that you otherwise wouldn’t get the chance to meet through other circumstances.
A lot of young people don’t realize just how difficult post-school dating was before online dating. Once we exhausted the pool of 5-10 single people who were friends of friends, that was basically it. We’d have to go find strangers at the bar.
That conditioned everyone to be slightly more willing to settle for less perfect matches, knowing that there wasn’t necessarily a replacement available. That could be a good thing (people more likely to have the patience to let a spark develop) or a bad thing (a higher percentage of couples who just resented each other).
I can see an argument that things were better before online dating for some subset of people. But having lived that period, I can say from experience that it wasn’t easy then, either. And for someone like me, who is a better writer than I am a speaker, especially over the phone, the rise of text-based communication was helpful for navigating the early stages of relationships when that became the norm.
Incentives: you find a girlfriend the app lose a customer. They are not optimized for you finding a girlfriend.
Gender imbalance: there are about 3* guys for every girl. There is very little leftovers for you as an average guy. *Very crude counting from me 5 years ago.
Sure you may find one and it’s relatively low effort. Don’t get your hopes up.
Funny anecdote: I’ve had more luck getting dates from World of Warcraft.
Funny anecdote: I’ve had more luck getting dates from World of Warcraft.
Because common interest, and engagement without an agenda.
Funny anecdote: I’ve had more luck getting dates from World of Warcraft.
Same here lmao
That said I’ve never used other dating apps than wow.exe
I met my fiance on Team Fortress 2, so I can back up your anecdote that video games are better for dating than dating apps lol
I met my wife on a dating app in 2019 on Bumble (28 at the time). It can work, but you have to be willing to sift through a lot of bullshit and be patient. You also need to be able to handle rejection and mistreatment (like getting stood up/ghosted). It’s ultimately a numbers game and it takes time to find someone that is actually right for you.
I expect it’s probably also not nearly as bad for older age groups. At your age, I think people are going to be a lot more likely to be direct and know what they want.
My advice is to try it out. Worst case, you decide it’s not for you and try something else.
The free tier will let you swipe x times per day.
Of the 10,000 matches in your area, 1000 might be real humans.
So, it ends up feeling like a waste of time for any guy that doesn’t get their profile pics taken by a professional. The odds of your iPhone pics standing out are slim unless you’re rocking a speedo packing a hog, ridiculously muscular, or apparently holding a fish? That can’t be working…
It ends up feeling like a waste of time.
The odds of your iPhone pics standing out are slim unless you’re rocking a speedo packing a hog, ridiculously muscular, or apparently holding a fish?
From my experience; that’s not what women are looking for. At least, not the ones I ended up matching & later talking about the dating app experience; but then I matched without any of those types of photos… so there’s selection bias in my sample. I did encounter a number of women mentioning the ubiquitous “fish pic” and though it was strange. I guess if you like fishing as a hobby that’s fine; but I don’t notice that many single men when I’m fishing. As a response I would send them a selfie holding up my kids’ “fish” bath toys and that always got a laugh :)
As someone else stated, they are indeed worse than people say. The has been massive consolidation in the industry, to the point where nearly every app is owned by the same company. And that company has been caught, multiple times, catfishing their own users with bots that then ghost them.
The company is pure Chicago School economics; they don’t care about their users or product, just extracting money from people. Generally, this is men (though not always) as the culture cultivated in the apps is pretty shallow and messed up.
Overall, it’s a much better time to engage in some sort of social hobby of the like. Success rate will likely be higher and the experience less depressing.
Enough has been said about the dating apps, so I feel it’s OK to remark on something else:
separated from my wife of 31 years - just earlier this month. Honestly, I’m already feeling bored and lonely
Can you provide some more context here? On the face of it it makes you sound like being dependent on a woman to keep you company. Sorry if I misinterprete that. But shouldn’t you be rather busy with other things now - idk, moving, settling in, changing your life alround, finding new friends, recovering from the separation…
FWIW, my (now) 52yo brother and his wife found each other through a dating site/app almost 10 years ago. They seem to be doing well.
My wife and I have always been independent in our marriage. Our separation was simply a long, honest conversation followed by her moving into her own place. We’ll probably divorce at some point, but it’s not a priority for either of us. Lifestyle-wise, nothing has really changed for me. I’m not lacking company - just sexual and romantic companionship specifically.
Just be aware that in many areas if you aren’t divorced then sleeping with someone else is called infidelity. Judges tend to get pissed about that during divorce proceedings.
I used bumble and found my now wife. My advice is to do it like a background task while you are also doing other things, so you’re not desperate you can evaluate people there better.
A lot of negative comments. I went through a divorce last year (male, mid 40s), and used dating apps when I was ready to start meeting people. I was apprehensive going in but ended up shocked by how positive the results were. After a week or two I would have several matches and pause searching while I talked with those and planned in-person meetings. Most profiles you’ll never get a reply. Of those you match again, half likely never respond to initial introductions / questions. But, if you live in a major metro area there’s still plenty of people looking for relationships if you’re willing to filter through that. I’m now happily in a relationship for the past few months so I’ve stopped using these apps.
I tried 3: eHarmony, hinge, and bumble. Here’s my feedback from best to worse.
Hinge: encourages discussion as an initial match prompt. I met the most people on this app and many matches led to in person dates. Met the person I’m currently dating seriously on here.
Bumble: costs money to send a comment / question, free to “just swipe”. Kept showing me profiles for people currently within my search distance, but who have listed another major city as their home (I guess they’re connecting through the airport and on the app?). Went on multiple dates with matches, fewer than hinge.
eHarmony: where I originally met my previous wife ~20 years ago. Now had the fewest matches and worst experience (and highest cost). I stopped checking this one after about a month. Went on only 1 date.
Feedback from my matches about the app: many men are using it to find people to cheat with / aren’t serious about a relationship. All of them told me actually holding a conversation on the app put me in the “top tier” of their matches. Many shared that matches just gave super short answers then asked for a phone number. Several noted that half the time they shared a number they almost immediately received dick pics. Multiple said matches tried to get them into crypto (?!?!).
For me (busy work schedule, and still spend half my time with kids) the experience was far better than any dates friends or co workers suggested. The profiles are not super deep… Yes everyone loves live music, travel, and The Office. I wanted to connect over something more specific than that. At least the people you match with are also looking for a relationship. Meeting people through my hobbies at 40+ most are in long term relationships or not interested in starting one. The apps are largely superficial… Half the first dates I went on one or both of us decided not to have a second date. Which is honestly expected… Even after filtering through the profiles and messaging in app you still only know the basics for most people.
For you specifically: many matches took issue with the recent timing of my divorce. If you’re separated (not divorced) expect that to be a deal breaker for many.
They used to be better. I had a lot of success when they were relatively new. However the culture around them has gotten worse and more toxic, and the companies have grown more abusive of customers. Just what I gather… I haven’t tried since 2019.
Tinder was okay for meeting people interested in actual relationships when it was newer. It seemed to turn into more of purely a shallow hookup site. I tried Bumble, and that worked, though it apparently is not as good as it used to be. Never tried Hinge or any of the others.
Thinking more about psychology helped me have success on the apps. Don’t be boring, start real conversations. I got some very good advice once from a friend, which was “if a girl is on tinder, she’s horny”. I was… oh. That makes sense. It helped me be less nervous. You could also say lonely or bored. In my experience it’s not hard to figure out if someone is after the same things as you are. I’ve never used them to just hookup, only find steady girlfriends. I did find some situations more like hookups, casual GFs or FWB though. A few dates fizzled. I’ve gotten together with about 15 women I met on Tinder/Bumble and 6 of them turned into steady relationships. I can’t say they were the most sane people I’ve ever met.
