• Cosmoooooooo@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    This asshole thinks that religions and beliefs stop people from being hedonistic, consumerist pigs. lololololol.

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      4 days ago

      You brought religion into this, and your sophist insults.

      Sounds like someone has a belief and is upset it’s being exposed.

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        3 days ago

        Strangely enough, we are often able to see each other’s shadow (Jung), and not our own.

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      4 days ago

      How do you think you pass over riches, drugs, sex, etc that you can easily acquire one way or another? You don’t cheat on your wife because of your beliefs, you don’t do coke because of your beliefs, you don’t undercut your employees because of your beliefs, etc etc. There literally isn’t any other way to curtail your hedonistic impulses (and other impulses, ofc) but to BELIEVE in something, a sentence or a group of sentences that resound within you at least, that tells you “no, it’s okay, I can hold it in cause if not I’ll regret it later”. It’s either that or, idk, locking yourself up in a room? 😅

      • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
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        4 days ago

        I dunno, I’d say people do things like coke, cheat, etc, because of beliefs.

        They have a belief that “it doesn’t matter”.

        But yea, our beliefs, our paradigms, are what help us be better people to each other.

        Hell, science is founded on the belief that the universe is rational, that “God does not play dice with the universe”.

        Studying quantum mechanics makes me wonder otherwise. Nothing about it is rational. Not to say I don’t operate on a day-to-day basis that the underlying framework makes sense, what other choice do we have?

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          They have a belief that “it doesn’t matter”.

          Maybe the belief is that it does matter. Gotta grind beyond what’s normal or healthy for too-long-extended periods. Or be homeless.

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          4 days ago

          If we manage to understand pretty much everything about the universe above the quantum level, I’d consider that a great success for some bipedal primates on the 3rd rock from the Sun, looool. 😁