• aramis87@fedia.io
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    Cmdr. Lillian Carranza said it was irresponsible for people to describe the arrests as “kidnappings” and encourage people to call 911, saying that there is misinformation circulating online about how and when federal authorities can arrest someone. Authorities don’t need to present a warrant when encountering someone on the street, she said; all they need is probable cause. “If people have concerns about the conduct of federal agents, they need to seek justice in court,” she said. “That is the place to litigate the case. Not the streets.”

    A) ICE is moving people beyond their local jurisdiction as quickly as they can, and are deliberately not updating records as to where people have been taken, specifically to avoid being held up by the courts.

    B) How do you seek justice in the courts when the officers won’t show their faces, won’t identify themselves or the agency they work for, and reports they file don’t name the officers or departments involved? How do you seek justice in the courts when they’re deliberately and repeatedly moving people around specifically to keep them beyond the reach of the courts?

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      When someone gets charged for assaulting a federal officer, is the allegedly assaulted officer identified by name or department and badge number?

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      You literally can’t seek justice in the courts. Trump and co are ignoring due process. This needs to be made louder. If there is no due process there is no justice and no reason to “wait” for a court date that will never come.

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      B) How do you seek justice in the courts when the officers won’t show their faces, won’t identify themselves or the agency they work for, and reports they file don’t name the officers or departments involved?

      How would we seek justice against cells of foreign terrorists doing the same thing to people? That’s how.

      Courts aside, if the oaths of law enforcement weren’t completely thrown in the can at this point, unidentifiable armed masked goons hopping out of unmarked vans should be a “shoot first” scenario for the coppers and concerned citizens. (Ah right. L.A.)

      How long until the next mass shooting or high profile robbery goes down because the perps thrifted some surplus and shouted “We’re ICE, step aside.”?

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      To play devils advocate, there are the same number of 911 operators, and if the police are sent, they’ll most likely end up helping the federal employees in anger.

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    Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin called coverage of one reported kidnapping a “hoax” in a post Tuesday on X and said: “ICE does not employ bounty hunters to make arrests.”

    I’ll take that as official confirmation that ICE is, in fact, employing bounty hunters to make arrests.

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      “we have never employed bounty hunters. And you are a horrible human for implying that. We do use armed security contractors, who we pay a stipend for each illegal collected for deportation. Not the same thing at all, which any patriotic American can see. In fact, you are unamerican for even thinking it. Off to the Everglades you go!”

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      Welp, they don’t employ bounty hunders, they said so themselves. So every masked armed person trying to break in my house is a criminal.

      Second Amendment, Castle Doctrine.

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    “It’s not kidnapping when WE do it…it’s…forcibly taking people against their will to a undisclosed secondary location under indefinite false imprisonment. TOTALLY different!”

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    good. inundate them. protect yourself. know your self defense laws. memorize your lawyer’s number