• Bob Robertson IX @discuss.tchncs.de
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    The National Guard left shortly after 1 p.m., once protesters approached with their hands raised in the air.

    So, you treat the National Guard the same as a black bear? Just make yourself appear larger and they will leave.

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    In France, when they piss of the farmers, they protest by bringing the farm equipment to them. Some are loaded with poop.

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      My french friend told me that the dairy farmers once protested by dumping a massive amount of milk on the streets of Paris one time. Apparently the smell was… Well you can imagine.

      The French know how to protest.

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              Oh please, the entire world has skin in this game. The world’s most powerful country has been overrun by fascists, and half the people who can stop it before it leaves its borders are too “scawed” to do anything and the other half is rooting for the fascists.

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                So many cowards with big mouths and big guns sitting at home waiting for the rest of us to straighten out their mess.

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                  Nobody asked you for help. Just pointing out it’s easy to ask someone else to become Tank Man.

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            Ukraine has trained military personnel and instruction from the finest minds in the West. And actual armor of their own. This is no comparison, you need to temper your expectations.

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              They didn’t at the beginning. They had a half assed army barely supplied, a navy with no ships and an Airforce that was basically grounded. Using equipment from the 1970’ and 80’s. Look it up. Their military was at best backwater until the Russians invaded Crimea. Quit making excuses.

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                I’m aware. What little Ukraine had to start with is more than any collective group of counter protesters in the USA have access to right now. They also had sovereignty that world powers could throw weight behind. What world power is going to sponsor US citizens to fight their own government?

                These aren’t excuses, this is reality.

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                  Counterpoint, there are more firearms in possession of the American civilian populace than there were in the Ukrainian military during the February invasion.

                  If the American politiy doesn’t want to be governed, it’s going to take a whole lot of concentration camps to make it governable.

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                  You won’t get support until you organise and resist. It’s pretty simple. Ukraine didn’t have a backer either. People had their kids and Baba’s filling glass bottles with styrofoam.

                  You’ll never gain my support again, ever. Allowing threats of annexation of Canada and silence from all of 'murica on that subject. Instigation of economic warfare on us was just another strike. Now it’s the complicity of the American people to complete fascism and arguments against doing anything to stand up for yourselves and your neighbors.

                  I’ll meet you at the border though when they press you into service for the water wars. No matter how prepared I am.

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      2019 the French destroyed 60% of all speed cameras in the country in protest to raising fuel taxes,

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    Another reason to not like the militarization of law enforcement. There were no pictures of guardsmen. Does that mean only federal agents were there and nobody realized? The line between the military and law enforcement is no longer a blur, it’s a fucking mosaic.

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      Wow, I don’t know why they keep saying “we’re unarmed”… people start open carrying at these protests. You want them to back off and leave? You want to not get shot with rubber bullets? These SS members are doing that shit because they know there won’t be any force returned to them. If this crowd showed up armed, they would have left a long time ago.

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        For that to work, you need enough firepower to actually win. Anything short, and it will be a bloodbath, on your side.

        By approaching while very obviously not being a threat, it jamms their training, and forces them to think. Once they are thinking, they likely REALLY don’t want to be the ones to start shooting at American protesters.

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          Americans don’t think lmfao especially the police. Did you know that it is legal to discriminate against applicants to the police if they are too smart? There’s whole court cases about this. Apparently, the argument is that people who are smarter will be less obedient when given an order because they might just employ some critical thinking skills instead of blindly following directions.

          Police don’t want thinkers. They might be “bored” or “dissatisfied” when they figure out they’re nothing but bullies to keep the citizens in line.

          So no, if you see a cop in riot gear at a protest, do not expect a thinking, feeling, or compassionate human being. A cop in riot gear is a goon through and through, and a trusted goon at that. Goons only understand force, and if you show them more force than they’re prepared to handle, their core programming as self serving cowards will come to the surface. Self serving cowards are people who can be salvaged. Goons are not.

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            They are goons, but programmed goons. If you play to the programming then you will get their desired response. By forcing them outside their programming, they have to improvise.

            The smarter ones realise shooting first is a bad idea, politically. The stupider ones just want out, and notice the smarter ones seem similarly inclined.

            Staying within the programming is a lose-lose situation for the protestors. You need to get outside the patterns to get new results.

            It’s also worth noting that this is a very American thing, not a universal one. Your police are very broken, and in desperate need of an overhaul.

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        Open carry is basically always illegal in CA, so you better have critical mass cause if you’re lucky enough not to get shot you’re going to jail for a few years.

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          True but I’m talking about protests where it’s legal. I don’t know if this is considered rural though since it’s a farming area. Which is exempt from the open carry ban.