They’re just straight up evil.

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    Hypothetically if you wanted your country to become impoverished within the next five decades, what sort of things would you do that are different to what the current administration is doing?

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      I mean, technically there would be more direct measures, like using artillery to blow up infrastructure or destroying crop with flamethrowers.

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      They don’t want the country to be impoverished, and it’s ridiculous to suggest that.

      They just want the bottom 99.9% of the population to be impoverished. They’re already most of the way there.

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      The only differences I can think of is not chickening out on the tariffs and forcing the interest rate lower to kick off runaway inflation.

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      Thats a great idea! We should evangelize that. That woukd be a great movement. Cancel one od your streaming services to suppport seasame street

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        Make sure to list that as reason. If enough people drop Disney to fund NPR, Disney might buy a politician to do something about it.

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        Only around 15% of the PBS budget comes from the federal treasury via the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), thanks to decades of privatization. NPR’s budget is as little as 1% from the CBP.

        Consequently, both networks have suffered from a creeping enshittification, with a rising tide of advertisement and ad-supported content taking over both networks and the forced sale of some of its most valuable assets (PBS licensing Sesame Street to Warner Brothers, for instance) to finance continued operations.

        Like, by all means. Cancel your Netflix. Cancel Disney. Support public broadcasting. But this isn’t a solution in the long term, any more than cancelling Basic Cable for Netflix was a way to fix the fully privatized entertainment system. We’re still surrendering our social capital to private interests, bit by bit (or in this case by massive chunk).

        This is a stab wound. We can patch it, but we shouldn’t mistake this as to anyone’s material benefit.

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    The White House called for an end to federal funding for NPR and PBS in April, claiming that they “spread radical, woke propaganda disguised as ‘news.’” Trump also fired the CPB’s three Democratic board members, who refused to leave their posts. Trump sued them this week in an attempt to force them out.

    Translation: they don’t regurgitate right wing talking points.

    These people are disgusting.

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      They also educate and inform people. That’s a problem for the GOP. They don’t want the American people, ESPECIALLY low income people, to have access to free education and information that PBS and NPR provides. They need to ensure the population is stupid thus easier to control.

      So America they’ve taken your medicade, they’ve taken the ability of a good portion of your country to be able to eat, they’re taking immigrants, tourists, or people that they don’t agree with to camps, they’re taking your education, they’re taxing you with tariffs, they have a gestapo, and they’ll be taking away more rights from Women and POC. I have to ask…how much longer until you start to get a little bit violent?

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        They also educate and inform people.

        Eh. They are increasingly polluted by their private sponsors and corporate partners. I’ve given up on listening to NPR in the mornings because so much of it is very obviously native advertisement or propaganda (particularly bad in the immediate aftermath of Oct 7th, with broadcasters uncritically repeating IDF hoaxes like the “40 decapitated babies” line).

        So America they’ve taken your medicade, they’ve taken the ability of a good portion of your country to be able to eat, they’re taking immigrants, tourists, or people that they don’t agree with to camps, they’re taking your education, they’re taxing you with tariffs, they have a gestapo, and they’ll be taking away more rights from Women and POC. I have to ask…how much longer until you start to get a little bit violent?

        I got a “Blue Alert” on my phone not two days ago, thanks to a vigilante attacking an ICE agent. Dozens of armed cops were all over the Mayor’s Office yesterday because of a rumor of a Palestinian protest that never materialized. FFS, three different people tried to shoot the President in a two month span.

        I don’t think the problem is a lack of violence. What Americans largely lack is coordination and institutional support. A thousand little lone wolves don’t a revolution make.

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          They are increasingly polluted by their private sponsors and corporate partners.

          Gee, I wonder why they have those. Could it be because of the extreme cuts to their budget by conservatives?

          Your apathy is part of the problem.

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      Rescission packages aren’t subject to the filibuster, only a simple majority is needed. Expect more of this.

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        You can filibuster anything if you have the will. The Democrats just don’t have any care to fight for anything but their pathetic jobs.

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          No, you can’t. Debate time is limited in the senate for a rescission package. There is no filibuster, neither a traditional talking one nor one where they just say they’re filibustering to prevent a vote.

          I suppose someone could just talk and refuse to stop. They would be ruled out of order, and if they didn’t stop the Senate Sergeant at Arms would have them removed. If every democrat did that I guess that would hold things up a bit, but it’s not a filibuster and eventually the vote would proceed.

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          At this point I fear that it would be the best case scenario if all the Democrats were sniveling little controlled opposition weenies.

          What if a lot of them are good people with the will, the energy, the means, and the awareness that now is their time to make history, and they are not because the writing on the wall (or the approaching shit tsunami, if you will) looks that much worse from the inside where they can see the machinations of this takeover in action long before it hits the news. And maybe they’ve heard some consistent believable inside rumors about the details of certain high profile suicides.

          They sure seem to be the useless variety though.

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        Sounds like something democrats could have used during the biden administration. Did they?

        Frankly, it’s starting to look like democrats always have an excuse. Have a majority? Oh shucky dern, we can’t pass what we ran on but never intended to pass because of the filibuster! WOOHOO! I mean, it really is unfortunate that we can’t do anything.

        Don’t have a majority? There is always some reason you can’t filibuster! WOOHOO! I mean, it really is unfortunate that we can’t do anything. Donate to put us back into power that we will refuse to use!

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          Well a rescission package can only be used to cut spending, so it couldn’t have been used by the Democrats to pass new spending.

          What do you think they should have used it to cut?

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            The military, the police, the prisons, ICE, TSA, DHS, CIA, NSA… any number of oppressive organizations that exist to protect the exalted status of capital.

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              I’m with you there but you could not have got even a simple majority of elected representatives to agree to that. It would have to be something that Democrats broadly support.

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                  I thought you were saying they were ineffective at enacting their agenda because they didn’t use rescission packages.

                  If we’re talking about what you just said I have no quarrel.

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          The main reason republicans are able to get better results from a filibuster than the democrats is republicans don’t give a shit about the consequences.

          When there is a lapse of government funding it causes chaos in a lot of programs that tens of millions of people depend on. Even if it’s just a day, the government spends weeks preparing for it and when it’s over it’s not like flipping a switch and everything goes back to normal, there is a long recovery period. Even getting close to a lapse results in wasted effort preparing for the possibility which takes away from running the programs and harms people.

          For republicans that’s an added benefit to a point, not something to be avoided so they will hold out until they get a large portion of what they want. Democrats have to weigh the pain and suffering from a lapse against getting concessions so their thresholds are different.

          But as absentbird said, that doesn’t really apply here because rescission isn’t something that democrats are going to use often.

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      Democrat answer: Filibusters are ‘not a good look’. We want to be seen as the party of reasonable adults who honestly want to work across party lines to help our constituents. We won’t vote to end the practice as it has a long history and tradition blah blah blah

      Honest answer: We don’t give a single fuck about our constituents, the only people we are beholden to are the lobbyists who line our pocketbooks. It’s easier to control the narrative when all of the media corporations are owned by billionaires.

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        Nah. You’re not thinking like a politician. The real answer is, “this will be a PR disaster for them. LOL this is really goin to help my fundraising”

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          Then people who like the collaborationists will blame you when they lose and take it as a sign that they should collaborate even harder.

          Of course, they take everything as a sign that they should collaborate even harder.

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    Haven’t they already used up their spending budget reconciliation bill for the year passing the BBB? Hopefully this will be filibustered to death then.

    Edit: Nevermind, apparently rescission bills also bypass the filibuster.

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    It’s not even September and they’ve dismantled like 80% of the shit that makes being alive worthwhile

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      dismantled

      https://www.npr.org/2025/05/13/1250902337/npr-cpb-public-radio-funding-101

      Today, NPR receives only about 1% of its operating budget directly from the federal government.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/14/business/media/npr-pbs-funding-cuts.html

      Will NPR and PBS survive?

      Yes. NPR gets about 2 percent of its annual budget directly from federal grants, including from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting; for PBS, that amount is about 15 percent.

      It’ll be a hit for PBS in particular, but it’s not gonna end NPR or PBS.

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      makes being alive American worthwhile

      FTFY.

      We deliberately don’t get news about it, but China is making entire cities for the well-educated looking to return to China from the US. They are “taking the solar system” right now according to some experts, and are on their third space station among multiple lunar missions. ESA and other countries have also taken grand steps into space. International science and medical research forges ahead without us. There are countries effectively expanding their social safety nets and other than US involvement in Israel/the Middle East broadly, the world is at an all-time peak of peace and personal safety.

      You are being fed a cultivated image. This entire “free speech” catchphrase that we’ve been taught to scream at any offence is an illusion, a lie reinforced by every branch of media, which are in turn branches of the corporations that have long since nailed the coffin closed on actual democracy.

      Remember Dead Internet Theory? Dead America Theory. We died around Reagan, the country has been running on momentum and money. We won’t feel it until the money runs out and that’s why this current administration is a pile of bottom-feeding bilge rats scraping off whatever they can from taxpayers. They know the value of the American dollar is about to start plummeting, and climate change and other technological changes to the global stage will be the final flush of this toilet we’ve been trying to pretend we’re not spinning around.

      Our progress and species will go on, just not without America leading the way. Even if we got a “perfect” president and administration tomorrow they wouldn’t be able to undo this reverse-snowball that’s currently evaporating out of control.

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        China is making entire cities for the well-educated looking to return to China from the US

        Can you tell me where some of these are? Or give me any info to look them up?

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          Keep in mind I’ve only visited China and have limited actual knowledge of culture and policy, but I know there’s been a large wave of Chinese investment in future education, infrastructure and entire cities being made with the express purpose of housing an anticipated population influx, particularly repatriation from other countries like the US. They offer tax-breaks and assistance for housing and other services, but these are specifically to returning Chinese, and I am not researched into what qualifies you for these benefits. I’m sure there are loads of info out there.

          Cities like Ordos have been ridiculed and made fun of for being “abandoned” but people forget that China’s policy-thinking stretches out over much larger timespans than most other developed nations. These are gleaming cities with automated taxies, ultra-efficient infrastructure and urban planning and they are starting to fill up. What’s wild is how many of the citizens in these new cities are obviously educated in America and everyone speaks English fairly well. They are also building and incentivizing higher education and tech-sector communities, making their own Silicon Valleys in multiple areas of China.

          I think the last pieces they are missing to truly set the groundwork for the Chinese Century are much more robust family-planning and subsiding childcare so they don’t suffer the same population-rot impacting every other capitalism-ravaged nation right now, and better immigration/integration policies. If they can start embracing multi-culturalism they will literally steal the torch from America, but I guess some old ways die hard.

          One of the best things going for them, and I have no idea how much they lean into it in reality, is the fact that despite being a capitalist country, they aren’t terrified of the word “socialism” so they won’t face riots from suggesting that maybe it’s okay for one person’s taxes to pay for someone else’s healthcare. Sense of community responsibility that works both ways is something absolutely squeezed out of American culture without a drop remaining.

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    They’ve had a hardon for public broadcasting for thirty years, which is why NPR and PBS have been preparing for this and why their funding largely doesn’t come from the feds anymore. It’s a hollow victory, it’s just depressing because anymore, it seems the right gets everything they want. They get it all. All of it. And we get nothing.

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      What’s sick is that they are a fraction of this country. But thanks to their money and their platforms, they can constantly repeat the lie that “most people are conservatives”.

      No, the kind of weird perverted freaks that dream of killing funding to NPR and PBS are definitely not normal and not the majority. But yeah, thanks to a lot of various things, they get what they want…it’s sickening.

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    It’s just all vengeance and spite for decades of having to “tolerate” even a modicum of liberalism in their lives.

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      I disagree with the defunding, as many of the programs supported by NPR and PBS are pretty interesting / educational – but to claim its just a ‘modicum’ of liberalism in regular media channels is a bit odd, especially if you look outside ‘just’ the ‘news’ (news sources are slanted towards right wing, definitely).

      But if you look at things like netflix/most streaming services, or hollywood movies, or ‘leisure’ type shows in general, there’s far more than a ‘modicum’ of liberalism.

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      What’s really insane is they don’t even want the knowledge. They just want knowledge in any capacity to go away.

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        No, they want the knowledge but only for themselves, after all during the guilded age, the educated where the rich and the rest where ignorant so they couldn’t push back and be controlled. PBS and NPR spread knowledge for the masses and THAT is what they want to stop

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          I don’t think you’ve seen who’s doing all the destruction. These people do not care about gaining knowledge.

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      Keep them just smart enough to work the machines, but too stupid to coordinate uprising.

      ~ George Carlin, paraphrased