• SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    Replacing everyone, especially on a global scale, is unlikely to be possible, since it is too expensive. But working in large companies and earning a lot of money may not work out as before, although this will depend on the country you are in and whether your government goes crazy or not.

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    I’m pleased to report that all those other promised utopia frameworks turned out perfect, and aren’t in any way still a huge daily pain in the ass. I expect no less from this time around. Computers are finally smart. It’s great.

    It’s the AI that is prone to delusions, or was that just me?

  • Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    I once heard an arrogant fuck go on super confidently for like 2 hours about how AI will never master natural speaking voices

    So yeah, be blase about the biggest existential threat to your careers that has ever existed.

    The real tragic part is that all of you laughing are going to be unemployable within a decade

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        Some of us will be replaced the old fashioned way. By a underpaid worker in a third word country that will ask for one tenth of the money for the same job.

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        The worst part of your undeserved arrogance is that I won’t be there to see it bite you on your ass in a career ending way.

        Maybe take up farming?

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          And here I thought to have heard the funniest joke you can make. Farming. With current climate change dynamics. If I could do that, I would rather do something funnier, like bets.

          And about who would be where: if Lemmy still stands ten years after, chances are I will be here too. But I feel safe to count on “bubble has burst, it’s in the news. How ya feel there” within a few years. Will ping you for sure

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            20 hours ago

            My great grandfather was a ferrier, a person who shoes horses. He trained from the age of 12 on how to trim hooves and set nails and repair damage. By all accounts he was very good at it. And at the time automobiles were only for the ultra rich as a hobby or a social statement. Horses were for everyone else, and my great granpappy was pretty sure he had a career for life and to heck with those new fangled rotomobiles

            But it took less than 15 years for horse ownership to collapse (and a good thing too, most cities were facing a dung removal logistical nightmare) and he went from a skilled tradesman to a day laborer to a dead alcoholic in less than 20 years

            Maybe you can learn some lessons from his arrogance.

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              19 hours ago

              Oh, that I can, and thank you for your message, really. With that said, here is the differences: cars did work as a transport, and AI as it is marketed (magic replacer of all) does not, and even in the narrow use case of programming - no, it does not. It can produce heaps of lines of code, it cannot do the work of building a reliable software that does what is required of it. It has also failed to replace artists. So no, I am not afraid

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                12 hours ago

                Compare AI generated content from now and 2 years ago and extrapolate the curve

                It’s not linear, but your monkey brain will insist it is

                That’s why you’re not afraid.

                Honestly taking programmer jobs isn’t even close to the worst thing AI is going to do to us

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                  My monkey brain keeps hearing of non-linear progress, and things keep staying here:

                  Besides that, since you insist on being fearful: why AI of all things and not a handful of rich assholes who actually make our lives hard every damn day?

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                  Yes, it’s not linear. The progress of GenAI in the past 2 years is logarithmic at best, if you compare it with the boom that was 2019-2023 (from GPT2 to GPT4 in text, DALL-E 1 to 3 in images). The big companies trained their networks on all of the internet and ran out of training data, if you compare GPT4 to GPT5 it’s pretty obvious. Unless there’s a significant algorithmic breakthrough (which is looking less and less likely), at least text-based AI is not going to have another order-of-magniture improvement for a long time. Sure, it can already replace like 10% of devs who are doing boring JS stuff, but replacing at least half of the dev workforce is a pipe dream of the C-suite for now.

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              yes, in future IF ai replaces me as a programmer(which as explained is not possible), then I shall start working alongside it.

              See cars replaced horses, but not humans, our need for progress is insatiable and I doubt any software program can emulate human intelligence

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    God, I’m so sick of coding. Please. Bring it.

    As of right now though? 5-6 years fie the basics

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        I’m not a coder, but my job requires a bunch of menial, boring coding. I do numerical simulations. After mathematically understanding the numerical method, it’s basically half a step above data entry. There’s also a bunch of legacy fortran code I have to build on that has zero documentation and three letter variables. This would be one of the few actually good applications of text generating machine learning imo.

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            Nobody has built a tool that executes a mathematical method that I have developed or at least adapted, at least not before I publish the method.

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                Because I’m in academia and it’s a slow process to get things published in a way that ‘counts’ to the university and scientific community. I often need to implement stuff first to check a few things, whether it’s viable etc.

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                  21 hours ago

                  That’s not how it works. Put it on GitHub like the rest of us and stop making excuses.

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          If it has three letter variables, chances are it was also written by someone that doesn’t want to code either

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              Back when optimization was Black Magic. Now we just tell the customers they need better hardware.

              Someone probably had to argue hard to get 3 letter variables. Guarantee there was some one arguing for 1 letter variables.

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        This is another fine example of where assumptions get you no where on the internet. My job isn’t coding but it requires knowing to do it well. If I exit the job market, as per your request, I cannot be replaced by a coder. Believe it or not, most jobs that require a coding skillset are not about coding. Crazy, right? 😲

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          “assumptions”? Maybe consider how “I’m so sick of coding” implies you’re doing coding? I’m so sick of driving, oh no somebody ‘assumed’ I’m a driver instead of a mechanic. Believe it or not, most people ‘assume’ something when you use sentences that imply it. CrAZy, riGhT? 😲

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            …why would a professional whatever make a remark for technology doing their job for them and making their career redundant?

            Farmer, coder, driver, whatever. “I can’t wait for the bots to do this” is not a common muttering. Except maybe if in the c-suite…

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      Well, it won’t come if everybody keeps pushing all the money in the world¹ into LLMs.

      1 - Almost literally.