cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/35800407
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I did the same about 12 ish years ago as it was already becoming a misinformation machine.
Yes! And those wierd psychology experiments they were doing? Gross. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28051930 I left in 2014 passively (stopped daily use) then 2017 stopped any interaction
Omg thank you for sharing this.
I’ve been telling people they have tech using advanced AI that serves you a post to make you feel exactly how they want you to feel.
It’s really effective on X. narratives play out for long periods of time.
They could convince everyone the sky was red if they wanted to.
Once again like others said, drop Facebook! Lots of fake profiles, scam ads and miss information.
Only reason I have Facebook is Facebook marketplace. Would love for some to create a alternative. Craigslist and OfferUp are nice, but the Facebook algorithm is more like local ebay. It might not tell me the most recent stuff or make it easy to sort by category, but it’s awesome at giving me recommendations.
I agree but fb is the only place for musicians and show/event notifications, not to mention TONs of non tech savvy small businesses use fb SOLELY for their business info and hours.
Its never going away.
If a business uses Facebook only, I boycott them.
Facebook and Instagram won’t let me view any of it anyways, but a business should have principles.
For real. Like there are braindead-easy services for building a website. There are definitely alternatives.
It’s not just a matter of the company’s capabilities. Sometimes the customers demand it.
Very recently a group of moms I know was upset because their plans were weather dependent and the water park they were heading to only posted the closure on their official website and not on facebook!
Yeah we’re all tech gods and they are dummies har har etc. And fortunately my work lets me work at quiet offices and at home. But I feel for the people who have to serve them, because the public IS filled with dummies, but many of them are just nice people who are trying to do business with you. And of course a large subset are cunts, which makes the ignorant decent people get much worse service.
This just reminded me about reading in an article how at some point Musk said he wanted to make X be the everything app. For many people, Facebook is already much further in that direction. That’s where they get their news, text or call their friends, do their shopping, plan their events, doom scroll, argue with strangers, etc. They might never leave it if TikTok wasn’t so deeply soaked into their neurons.
Needles to say, these people are exactly the type of conservative or recovering conservative people who should be far away from facebook. And I’m not excusing them. But I can at least understand the position folks trying to do business with them are in.
Not as brain dead as an fb page xD there’s tons of businesses solely using fb.
Business info can be found anywhere through duckduckgo, google or with a phone call! I never knew that musicians use FB, I guess for promotions ? After leaving FB I used YouTube and bandcamp for new music.
I meant local music and such. There’s no other avenue right now for that. Local city events too
There was this new technology in the 80s that took over in offices. It became so ubiquitous that people bought the machines to have at home, and it found a less-than-optimal use-case as a general communication device. In the 90s, as its popularity boomed, it would be totally reasonable to make the same assessment you just made, that they would never go away. But when was the last time you used a fax machine?
Im sorry, I dont feel like your comparison is relevant. Until something exists thats brain dead easy to use and has a ton of backing like fb, it will be required to have it for any community involvement in a lot of places.
Remember, the internet is scary now and people only want spoonfed services from massive corporations. Anything else is scawwyy.
Facebook is cool but did u have a MySpace?😏
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If Miss Information gets married, does she become Mrs Information?
Lol good one!
Thats Ms Information
It’s Ms Demeanor now
I feel like more people should know what’s going on. Facebook has done some scummy stuff in the past. Now Zuck is openly defending his AI grooming children. In and of itself it doesn’t make a lot of sense — what’s the upshot for Meta here? But outside the bubble of logic, it sets kids up to be groomed by real predators. It’s unacceptable.
People say the problem is that all the people they know are on Facebook. Two issues: most of those people would forget you exist if you leave Facebook. Also, you’re the reason they’re there. The second reason is that you are literally the product. You being on Facebook is part of the reason those people are, too, so be the change you want to see in the world.
most of those people would forget you exist if you leave Facebook
This is 100% true. I dropped facebook about 10 years back. If I’m not your “friend” without facebook, then you’re not really my friend. Getting out of that cesspool of drama and ignorance was one of the best moves I’ve made.
what’s the upshot for Meta here?
I’m a firm believer that there is some data point somewhere that indicates this will make them more money somehow, so that’s why they do this.
These companies aren’t run by people; they’re run by data.
Facts
You use(d) Facebook to stay connected. I use Facebook (with any empty profile) to engage/troll Trump supports. We are not the same.
But seriously, it’s interesting to use it to delve into the right wing zeitgeist.
For example, do not believe the narrative that they are upset about the Epstein list. They’ve been given marching orders to blame it on Biden “because if there was something there why didn’t Biden release it” and “a liberal just withheld the grand jury testimony, so it’s their fault” – don’t bother with the reality or nuance around of any of this, it doesn’t matter to them. They are a cult.
These are the type of people who would dismiss their own child coming forward with moleststion claims and allowing the abuse to continue. I am not exaggerating here. I had one demand physical evidence of Trump raping children; literally demand child porn be distrusted to them before they’ll
be convinced.reshift the goalpost.
I deleted my FB in 09 because of the social expectations and toxicity that came from it. Definitely in my top 10 best decisions of my life.
Neil Young and Dolly Parton
Role models we need but don’t deserve
What is up with these CAPS? Are we copying the typographic INCONTINENCE of Trump?
I have noticed people have changed the way they type since around 2016, when trump became president. The amount of people putting “Sad.” Behind a sentence is mindblowing. He gave so many people severe brainworms.
Using caps for emphasis in places where formatting options don’t exist is a practice as old as the internet. I remember doing it in the usenet days.
It’s a practice at least as old as type itself. It seems the attention Trump garnered, and the highlighting of his stereotypical Boomer typing, have merged the two in some people’s minds.
We’re at a unique crossroad where Gen X and Y grew up with their grandparents mostly refusing to use cell phones and their parents mostly fumbling with them. Now Gen Z and “Alpha” are growing up with grandparents who have mostly been shamed into acceptable text etiquette, and parents who are mostly as tech savvy as the next parent and who were there when the deep magic was written (so to speak).
Mango Mussolini’s narcissism is as pervasive as his parasitism so it’s no wonder the lecherous rapist’s sins against modern digital convention survived along with him. Some spin that as brilliant tactics but I’m not so sure. I’d wager it’s a coincidence he leaned into because it garnered attention.
Most of those now driving online discourse hadn’t had the same exposure to that style of texting prior to the 2016 US Presidential election cycle as preceding generations. So it seems novel to them. It’s history and perspective bring formed in real time.
No. Trump. Or maybe Russia.
I think a lot of that started ironically and then bled over to normal conversations.
I think it’s still mostly used ironically. Though, it’s hard to know anymore. I know it is among my social circles, at least.
Oh that is not all. Future generations might be able to map all the brain rot that man has caused.
He gave so many people severe brainworms.
Luckily not you though. That Ivermectin helped!
typographic incontinence
This term tickled my linguizzle gland.
Quite a normal thing to do no? Way before Trump got elected
With a single word in caps like that, I read it as yelling the word loudly.
The way it’s used here, by a PR conscious intermediary, it comes across more like bitter sarcasm. Like he would not let them release the statement on his behalf unless they yelled Facebook’s name when calling them out. It is similar to when a child tells their sibling they aren’t allowed to do something, but they say it loudly enough so that everybody understands the parent in the next room hears it too.
Edit to clarify: It is an awesome move to call them out, especially to people who blindly just use Meta’s stuff. I read my own comment and worried it would sound like I was calling the Facebook call-out childish itself. It is not. It is a very good thing to fight for a better world, especially when you have the fame or resources that give you a louder voice.
I mean he’s literally a boomer.
So based 🙏
I did the same earlier this year for exactly this reason. Glad to know I’m in such good company.
On the one hand, that’s good, but on the other hand, Meta crossed my line over eight years ago, and I’m woefully disappointed that he was using it until this point.
We need to take down the social media mafia.
Didn’t have to look far for that heart of gold, seems he already had it.
I almost didn’t get your joke there, good one.
Also, if you’re into low/no budget films, Hooker With a Heart of Gold is a great one, but it’s like 15-20 years old and it shows.
This looks like the exact garbage I love, I’ll definitely have to watch it.
If you enjoy that, Brad Jones has a few other really good ones to check out. Midnight Heat is an amazing dirty cop flick, and Jesus Bro! is a great sendup of shit like pureflix trash.
Good on him. I’m going to make it a point to listen to more Neil Young.
What’s this about AI talking to kids?
Meta had put guidelines in place allowing romantic and sensual conversations with children, such as calling an 8 year olds body a work of art apparently. (I don’t know much about it, so don’t take my word for it)
My expectations were low, but Jesus christ
Money brings out the worst in people.
And/or it brings out the worst people
He did the same thing on spotify and a little while later all his songs (at least the ones I had in my playlists) were back.
The Almighty dollar always wins doesn’t it Neil lol
How are people still on Facebook, I dropped it the moment my parents made Facebook accounts and that was before all the horrible stuff about the cokpany even came out I think
I still cant understand how people got onto there in the first place. When it came out it was obviously a bad idea.
I only created an account out of social pressure and never understood what others get out of it, I don’t even want to look at my own pics why would I care to look at my friends or any other posts they make for they matter and that was back when Facebook wasn’t just a content feed and actually showed you your friends updates.
